[Scheherazade]

I'm in a bit of a cynical mood lately, and might need to brush up on my philosophy and spiritual readings, but if I had to pick a figure, I'd say at least 90%, of Americans anyway.

Perhaps lower numbers in the nations of the Orient and the East.

[Albert]

I like you already.

It seems many, I would say majourity of today's people, and we are quickly approaching the levels of Sodom and Gamorrah.

[Scheherazade]

True, though to some degree this may have always been a truism - Christ mentioned the narrow gate, with the road to ruin being wide.

Ultimately though no one has any excuse.

[Donna]

"The more the wicked abound, so much the more must we suffer with them in patience; for on the threshing floor few are the grains carried into the barns, but high are the piles of chaff burned with fire." Pope St. Gregory the Great

[Potemkin]

Most Christians throughout history have believed that only a tiny minority of the human race are worthy to gain admittance into heaven. And it's difficult not to agree with them.

[Albert]

Do you guys think there might have had been a time where this was not true. Perhaps an era or an epoch?

[Potemkin]

Nope.

[Donna]

Perhaps, Albert.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Yuga

[Scheherazade]

Do you guys think there might have had been a time where this was not true. Perhaps an era or an epoch?

Not just in Christianity either, in Buddhism, and the philosophy of Platonism, the general idea seems to be that most will find suffering due to being too in love with the material world, instead of pursuing things of a higher nature.

Seems to potentially be a universal perception.

[Suntzu]

I think it is close to 100%, they are all gonna die.

[Scheherazade]

Not they, just their forms.

[Godstud]

0%

There can be no hell if you have a god who is forgiving.

"Damning" is simply religious fear-mongering meant to keep people placid and malleable.

[Scheherazade]

0%

There can be no hell if you have a god who is forgiving.

Not really, that'd be like saying there can be no "Justice" unless Dahmer and Gacy are pardoned.

"Damning" is simply religious fear-mongering meant to keep people placid and malleable.

To be damned is a natural spiritual consequence which follows one's behavior like the laws of nature, whether from a Christian or Muslim perspective, or Eastern perspective like that of Karma. The concept transcends creeds.

[Potemkin]

To be damned is a natural spiritual consequence which follows one's behavior like the laws of nature, whether from a Christian or Muslim perspective, or Eastern perspective like that of Karma. The concept transcends creeds.

Precisely. The judgement of God is never arbitrary. In a sense, God merely notes a fact which is already the case - that by doing what he or she has done, the sinner has damned themselves. It's rather like the idea of excommunication - the heretic excommunicates themselves by their words or actions, and the Church merely retrospectively recognises and acknowledges that fact. That's the theory anyway.

[Pants-of-dog]

All of us. We are all in it together. We're chained to the world, and we all gotta pull.

No one gets into Heaven until we all do.

[Potemkin]

All of us. We are all in it together. We're chained to the world, and we all gotta pull.

No one gets into Heaven until we all do.

Even this guy?

Albert Fish

Good luck with that, PoD.

[Pants-of-dog]

No one said it would be easy.

[Heisenberg]

This has to be the best topic I've ever seen at the top of my "new posts" feed.

Anyway, I'd say a pretty hefty percentage are damned. Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

[Stormsmith]

I think the bible says 144,000 will go to heaven. It also says a new Jurusalem will be built on earth for the rest, the survivor sinner class.

I feel bad that my dogs have a significantly better chance at going to heaven than I

[Pants-of-dog]

I think the bible says 144,000 will go to heaven. It also says a new Jurusalem will be built on earth for the rest, the survivor sinner class.

I feel bad that my dogs have a significantly better chance at going to heaven than I

Your post reminded me of this:

http://electricsheepcomix.com/apocamon/