[Hindsite]

Indeterminate irrelevance works better.

So could God be the biggest and the smallest at the same time?
What a concept. Holy, holy, holy.

Praise God Almighty
HalleluYah

[Besoeker]

So could God be the biggest and the smallest at the same time?
What a concept. Holy, holy, holy.

Could it be god doesn't exist - then the conundrum goes away?

[Rich]

I am not Jewish. I believe in my Christian God.

The Christian God is borrowed form Jewish fantasy. The Old Testament is filled with nonsense about the creator of the Universe favouring the Jewish people. The Creator of the Universe did not choose the Jewish people. He did not choose the Arab people as the lying racist Muslims claim. If the Creator of the Universe chose any people, it was clearly White Europeans, not Jews not Arabs. That's why if my must choose any of the ancient mythologies, the evidence compels me to choose Odin as my Lord.

[Hindsite]

The Christian God is borrowed form Jewish fantasy. The Old Testament is filled with nonsense about the creator of the Universe favouring the Jewish people. The Creator of the Universe did not choose the Jewish people. He did not choose the Arab people as the lying racist Muslims claim. If the Creator of the Universe chose any people, it was clearly White Europeans, not Jews not Arabs. That's why if my must choose any of the ancient mythologies, the evidence compels me to choose Odin as my Lord.

May God help you and have mercy on your soul.

[Godstud]

May Santa forgive your sins and deliver you presents at Christmas.

Hail Santa!

[Hindsite]

May Santa forgive your sins and deliver you presents at Christmas.

Hail Santa!

You are still a confused little child that has failed to grow up and realize that Santa has nothing to do with God and Christianity. I hope half-heartedly for your deliverance from the Evil one.

Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah

[Godstud]

Don't call me child, you senile old fool.

Christmas is a pagan holiday taken over by christians.

[Nonsense]

Another fallacious proposition, but lets address it in a way that is entirely consistent with the OP's mental capacity.

If the proposition had any substance at all, which, it does NOT, as there never has been, never will be any proof-positive to support the actual or physical existence of such an entity, were it even conceptually valid as a theological proposition, such a thing would be equal to the size of your brain, a single dimensional spot no larger than a Planck length in diameter across.

As no religious fanatic like yourself, capable of filling all of space with your nonsensical rhetorical incantations is even capable of providing a scintilla of proof to fulfil your wishes to prove such nonsense, it must logically be concluded that you are, will always be, 'tilting at windmills'.

[Decky]

You are still a confused little child that has failed to grow up and realize that Santa has nothing to do with God and Christianity.

Protestants really do know nothing about Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

[Nonsense]

Hindsite wrote:
"I am not Jewish. I believe in my Christian God.”

So, you 'believe' that Jesus is\was, 'god'?

Your even more deranged than I thought.

'Christianity' is built on the one 'BIG' LIE, that, 'Jesus is, 'the son of god' .

It is FALSE, because people like you, or any other 'religious' person, singular, or in the plural, cannot provide the, 'burden of proof' necessary to prove that statement.

It is a pure unadulterated LIE, pure FICTION, you compound your stupidity every day that you believe it.

'Catholicism' is 'plagiarism', a religion that was stolen from early 'Christian' followers by the Romans.

Just as the followers of 'Jesus' spread myths about their leader, so too does the Catholic church, for without the mythical 'god' & his 'begotten' 'son' there would be no people around to control by parting them from their money.

Just as today where we are subjected to daily incantations to buy this or that through commercial adverts, that are 'mythical', so too with all 'religions', once you have the attention of the deluded, they are at the control of the advertisers, the 'leaders'.

In America, the commercial control of people through the use of 'religious' psychological brainwashing tools of wanting to 'believe', has made many a 'minister'(LOL) very rich indeed thank you very much & it's simply amazing to observe,just how materialistic these 'spiritual' ministers turn out to be.

Would you even smell a SCAM if it stared you in the face, I don't think so, because the 'GULLIBLE' are the willing 'victims'.

[Hindsite]

Hindsite wrote:
"I am not Jewish. I believe in my Christian God.”

So, you 'believe' that Jesus is\was, 'god'?

Your even more deranged than I thought.

'Christianity' is built on the one 'BIG' LIE, that, 'Jesus is, 'the son of god' .

It is FALSE, because people like you, or any other 'religious' person, singular, or in the plural, cannot provide the, 'burden of proof' necessary to prove that statement.

It is a pure unadulterated LIE, pure FICTION, you compound your stupidity every day that you believe it.

'Catholicism' is 'plagiarism', a religion that was stolen from early 'Christian' followers by the Romans.

Just as the followers of 'Jesus' spread myths about their leader, so too does the Catholic church, for without the mythical 'god' & his 'begotten' 'son' there would be no people around to control by parting them from their money.

Just as today where we are subjected to daily incantations to buy this or that through commercial adverts, that are 'mythical', so too with all 'religions', once you have the attention of the deluded, they are at the control of the advertisers, the 'leaders'.

In America, the commercial control of people through the use of 'religious' psychological brainwashing tools of wanting to 'believe', has made many a 'minister'(LOL) very rich indeed thank you very much & it's simply amazing to observe,just how materialistic these 'spiritual' ministers turn out to be.

Would you even smell a SCAM if it stared you in the face, I don't think so, because the 'GULLIBLE' are the willing 'victims'.

As I have said before. you picked a good name for yourself, because you have been speaking a lot of NONSENSE.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

[B0ycey]

Being that according to the Bible God made man in his image and Jesus was his son, with logic and reasoning perhaps God it 6ft tall? Either that or Jesus suffered with his growth hormones when he was mortal.

[Nonsense]

As I have said before. you picked a good name for yourself, because you have been speaking a lot of NONSENSE.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

So,if it is such 'nonsense'(which, it is not)why do you find it so impossible to refute, yet so easy to make your sole reponse a personal one?

I think\know that you are running, that's the reality, cowardice in the face of the truth.

[Godstud]

You picked a good name for yourself, HINDSITE, since you're always have your head up your ass.

[Hindsite]

So,if it is such 'nonsense'(which, it is not)why do you find it so impossible to refute, yet so easy to make your sole reponse a personal one?

I think\know that you are running, that's the reality, cowardice in the face of the truth.

I am not going to defend Catholicism or and Scam by religious people to part others from their money.
But I am speaking about true Christianity and Jesus as the Son of God, which He has already proved by His death on the Cross and His burial in that now empty tomb in Jerusalem because of His Resurrection from the dead to be alive for evermore. Jesus did not leave His followers without proof that He had raised His body back to life, because He appeared to them and ate with them before He ascended to Heaven, from where He will return with His holy angels to the Earth in these last days.

Jesus also left proof to all believer of today, like myself. That proof was recorded in the New Testament as follows:

"Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed. For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead."
(John 20:6-9 )

Today the "linen clothes" is the most studied and famous religious relic in all of Christianity, the "Shroud of Turin." The "napkin" is known as the Sudarium of Oviedo today, because it is stored in a cathedral in Oviedo, Spain.

For a very long time the Sudarium has been kept in the cathedral of San Salvador at Oviedo in northern Spain. Although nothing is known of the first 600 years, according to Bishop Pelagius writing in the twelfth century, the Sudarium was in Palestine until shortly before 614 when Jerusalem was attacked by the king of Persia. To protect it from invaders the cloth, already revered as ‘the Sudarium of the Lord’, was conveyed in a chest, generally referred to as the Ark, to Alexandria.

Two years later the Sudarium was moved on again when Alexandria came under threat, this time to Cartagena in Spain. Later the Bishop of Seville (Saint Isidore) took it to Seville and thence to Toledo. The year 718 saw it moved north with Christians fleeing from the Arab armies which had invaded Spain in 711. King Alfonso II had a special chapel built for the Ark called the «Camara Santa», which duly became incorporated into the cathedral of Oviedo. Certainly, pilgrims travelling to Santiago are known to have made a detour to Oviedo to see the Sudarium, or at least the Ark in which it was kept.

The Sudarium is still preserved in the Camara Santa (Holy Chapel) in the cathedral, being displayed to the public three times a year, on Good Friday, the 14th September (the Feast of the Triumph of the Cross), and its octave on the 21st September. Unlike the Turin Shroud, the Sudarium holds no image. It contains only stains of blood and lymph (a colourless fluid from the tissues), but significantly, the blood group is AB positive, the same as that found by scientists during tests carried out on the Shroud of Turin.

Other similarities exist. Three species of pollen on the Sudarium match the pollen on the Shroud. It contains traces of pollen not only from Palestine, but from Africa and Spain, indicating the journey it took on its way to Oviedo. On the Shroud there are also traces of pollen from Syria, Turkey, Greece and France, revealing a completely different route. Of great significance is a table showing the regions of provenance of the plants whose pollens have been found on the Shroud. No fewer than 48 of them are typical of, and in some cases exclusive to, the environs of Jerusalem. The European representation of pollen is completely outweighed, which is not what one would expect if the Shroud were a fake created in Europe.

Scientists believe both cloths touched the same face within hours of each other. A technique known as Polaroid Image Overlay, applied to the frontal stains on the Sudarium produced no less than 70 points of coincidence with the corresponding area on the Shroud. Bloodstain patterns indicate that the Sudarium was placed over the head of the man on the cross before he was taken down from it. It was then removed before the body was placed in the shroud.

The Sudarium was subjected to Carbon 14 dating by a Professor Baima Bollone and the resulting date was the 7th century, but the Professor himself was unable to vouch for the test’s validity. His actual words in his contribution to the First International Congress on the Sudarium of Oviedo were : ‘The result is not easy to interpret due to the well known difficulties of dating textiles and to the conditions under which the sample was kept when it was taken in 1979 until it came to us in 1983.’ A supporting statement from the Conference reads : ‘Textiles left alone in normal atmospheric conditions are prone to becoming highly contaminated…. The Carbon dating should be nothing more than a stimulus to more precise investigation under better conditions.’

Since then more precise investigations have taken place. In particular, scientific comparisons have been made of the bloodstains on the Sudarium with those on the Shroud of Turin. Tests have shown that the man whose face the Sudarium covered, like the man of the Shroud, had a beard, moustache and long hair tied up at the nape of his neck into a pigtail. Since there were no signs of breathing he must already have been dead. The stains show a series of wounds produced in life by some sharp objects, such as thorns.

One report suggested that : ‘The only position compatible with the formation of the stains on the Oviedo cloth is that of a body having both arms outstretched above the head, with the feet in such a position as to make breathing very difficult, i.e., a position totally compatible with crucifixion. The man appeared to have been wounded first (by scourging, for instance), and to have had something sharp placed on his head, producing blood on the head, shoulders and back, and then crucified.’ Clearly, such a description of ‘something sharp’ would fit the crown of thorns described in the Gospels.

The most important conclusion of the First International Congress on the Sudarium of Oviedo, held there in 1994, taking into account the above findings, was that a complete joint study of the Sudarium and the Shroud was necessary. A later conclusion after scientific evaluation was that in both cases it seems much more possible that the cloths are genuine than the opposite.

The Third International Congress, held in 1998, actually had as its title : ‘A Comparative Study of the Sudarium of Oviedo and the Shroud of Turin’. In an interesting finding by Monsignor Giulio Ricci is the statement : ‘Comparing the life size photograph of the face on the Shroud taken by Enrie (the official Shroud photographer in 1931) with the one I brought back from Oviedo, and putting one on top of the other…I was taken aback by the perfect fit of the Shroud image with the macroscopic Sudarium outline. This could be «confirmation» for the hypothesis that both the Shroud and the Sudarium were placed on the same face.’

Elsewhere, we are reminded that the Sudarium’s presence on His face is limited to the brief time necessary to take the dead body of Our Lord down from the Cross at Calvary and convey it to the nearby tomb. It would have been taken off before the Shroud was fitted, which explains why the apostles saw it rolled up in a separate place in the empty tomb. Witnessing the face cloth and the empty shroud was a most significant moment for Peter and John, realising as they did that Jesus must have risen from the dead. As John said of himself : ‘And he saw and believed’.

The fact that the Sudarium was kept at all is a sign of its being genuine. A blood-covered rag, it has never had any artistic or monetary value. We are left with one conclusion : the Sudarium of Oviedo was used to cover the head of the dead Jesus of Nazareth when he was taken down from the Cross until he was buried in the Shroud.

Given all the evidence we can feel justified in believing that both the Sudarium of Oviedo and the Shroud of Turin are genuine and can reasonably be linked directly to the death of Jesus of Nazareth whose story is told so vividly in the Gospels. But in considering the cold scientific findings, we should not lose sight of the fact that they chronicle the most terrible sufferings inflicted on our Blessed Lord. If we are to repent of our sins honestly and sincerely, we do well constantly to recall those sufferings.

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/ ... turin.html

Evidence of “Resurrection of Jesus” in the Shroud of Turin

http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/evidenceAmalraj.pdf

New Forensic Evidence Validates The Shroud Of Turin And The Resurrection Of The Person In It

[MistyTiger]

If you had paid attention to the original post you would know the answer, because the answer was clearly revealed.

Praise the Lord.
HalleluYah

Ohh, the video? No thanks! I prefer Netflix.

[Oxymoron]

Why are you trying to figure out how big your god is?

There is only one God.

[Godstud]

There are tons of gods. Why should only 1 god be correct when the rest have just as much evidence supporting them?

Hail Thor.

Praise Odin.

[Oxymoron]

There are tons of gods. Why should only 1 god be correct when the rest have just as much evidence supporting them?

Hail Thor.

Praise Odin.

There is one God.

[Godstud]

My gods say you're wrong. You're just a heretic with no education.

Praise ODIN


This is gold.