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Takkon wrote:No, but that's not really what happened and you know that. The parents likely consented to this in some sort of roundabout way, so there's no legal argument against it. After all if it was pretty much any other random stranger no one would give a crap.

Parents expect to be able to trust their schools to protect their children. I'm sure many of them would have withdrew their child from participation had they known was was going on. Again, how exactly is any random stranger entitled to read to your child? Or does that entitlement only count in the case of a breach of trust between parent and school?

Takkon wrote:Oh yeah I'm sure they introduced her as Sasha Grey the anal enthusiast.

One kid finds out who she is, suddenly everyone knows and the internet searches begin. Considering this is in the news, it's not only possible, but very likely.

Takkon wrote:We are discussing your suspicions, I just don't want to get into an argument over guesswork, because it's all baseless. How can I defend Grey if I have no reason to believe that you are incorrect, nor reason to believe that you are correct?

Right, so you're one of those people who plays stupid. Got it.

Guesswork is you making blind assumptions about my life in desperate white-knight defence of a porn star. What I'm doing is pointing out the obvious based on a set of facts.
#13832038
Right, so you're one of those people who plays stupid. Got it.

I can't argue with your baseless accusations. Is that any more clear to you? Maybe you misinterpret politeness as playing stupid.

One kid finds out who she is, suddenly everyone knows and internet the searches begin. Considering this is in the news, it's not only possible, but very likely.

Should Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton also be banned? After all they made a porno and one of the first results online would be links to said porno.
#13832171
Takkon wrote:Isn't it more stupid to believe that you can catch a disease just by being around someone who has had sex? We don't need more prudishness in society than we already have.

It...it was a joke man. There is actually no such thing as brain AIDS (unless metaphorically speaking, in which case that's not a joke at all).
#13832237
It...it was a joke man. There is actually no such thing as brain AIDS (unless metaphorically speaking, in which case that's not a joke at all).

I got that it was a joke. Clearly I'm not taking a discussion about a porn star too seriously.

Still I think that even though it's a joke it definitely has a grain of truth. Most parents probably just think it's icky that a porn star is hanging around their kids probably because they secretly suspect their child could get a disease from it. There's no rational reason to oppose it, after all in the case of a violent felon you're mostly worried about that action being carried out against your kid, but Sasha Grey has only been on camera having consensual sex with other adults, and is not immediately recognizable by children.
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W01f wrote:Mixing porn with pop culture is detrimental to society.

And why is that?

Lensky1917 wrote:As far as I'm concerned, being a porn star in the past is not as bad as what some teachers, priests, or even coaches do in the present. :hmm:


Hit the nail on the head there.
#13832844
Parents expect to be able to trust their schools to protect their children. I'm sure many of them would have withdrew their child from participation had they known was was going on. Again, how exactly is any random stranger entitled to read to your child? Or does that entitlement only count in the case of a breach of trust between parent and school?


Who cares? Some people are pacifists but a I doubt they would moan if an ex soldier was allowed to volunteer to read to kids. If she can read and is no danger the children then let her read.

She sucks cock for money in her spare time and they kill people for money in their spare time. Neither has any effect on how good they are at reading to children.
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Decky wrote:
Who cares? Some people are pacifists but a I doubt they would moan if an ex soldier was allowed to volunteer to read to kids. If she can read and is no danger the children then let her read.

She sucks cock for money in her spare time and they kill people for money in their spare time. Neither has any effect on how good they are at reading to children.


It's really fun to hear people's comments, though, because they give way much more information about themselves than they are aware of. Take W10f as an example. I can write a short psych profile on him in 1 minute based completely on his reaction to this Sasha Grey thing. :)
#13833433
I could write a short psych profile of someone who doesn't understand why such things as pornography in pop culture are negative influences on children. It wouldn't be too flattering though, and might include terms such as 'lacking intellect' and 'brainwashed liberal'. But I don't think we need to go down that path. 8)

Repeat to fade: I'm all for cock suckers. The world would be a better place if every woman sucked a bit more cock. Albeit, we're talking about doing it to strangers for money here, which is an entirely different subject, which you seem to have failed to grasp.
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#13833435
I could write a short psych profile of someone who doesn't understand why such things as pornography in pop culture are negative influences on children.


Who is showing them porn? They are merely getting a woman that used to suck to read to kids. Your mother probably sucked cock, should she be banned from reading to kids?

Hate to tell you but most female teachers and even some male ones have performed fellatio. The education system would fall apart if you had to be a virgin to teach kids.
#13833438
Repeat to fade wrote:Who is showing them porn?

No one. I was referring to the question Imperial Spaghetti posed about why porn in pop culture negatively influences society.

I'm not sure why you're so adamant in your attempt to troll me by bringing up my mother. Please re-read my above reply, and try to keep up with the flow of conversation so I don't have to explain simple things to you.
#13833447
Well because you seem to want to paint Sasha Grey as some kind of devil that at all costs must be kept away from kids. Your reasoning for this is because she performed sex acts that well..... about 50% of the population perform on a regular basis.

Albeit, we're talking about doing it to strangers for money here, which is an entirely different subject, which you seem to have failed to grasp.


Ah so if a woman puts a dick in her mouth for free it's perfectly acceptable? But if she does it to earn money she isn't allowed near kids?

Sex is very different from murder in that way I guess. If you kill people for a living as a soldier or executioner then that is fine, but if you do it for pleasure then that is frowned upon. The opposite is true of sex.
#13833644
Either all women are whores, or whores don't exist. That's a fine argument you have there, repeat.


"Whore" as an idea is a social construct. Why is Sasha Grey's dick sucking objectively any different than some of the other teachers dick sucking?
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