[maz]

There was another church shooting on the same day the various players from the NFL were kneeling in the protest over police abuse of minorities.

While it was a topical news item, it definitely didn't get the same media treatment of the last church shooting, I guess because the shooter wasn't a fan of the Confederacy. The shooting wasn't considered a terror event, despite the shooter having been dressed as a terrorist, and it certainly wasn't a hate crime.

Suspect Charged With Murder in Mass Shooting at Tennessee Church

A Tennessee man was held without bond Sunday night on a first-degree murder charge after he allegedly opened fire while wearing a mask at a church outside Nashville, killing one person and injuring six others, authorities said.

Emanuel Kidega Samson, 25, identified as the suspect by police, told authorities he arrived at the church armed with a handgun just before 11 a.m. and "fired upon the church building," according to a State of Tennessee affidavit.

Officials said in a statement that more charges were expected.

Samson, who appeared to go by "Bulda" and often signed his Facebook posts "B," posted several times to social media in the hours leading up to the shooting.

"You are more than what they told us," one post said.

A second post read, "Become the creator instead of what's created. Whatever you say, goes."

Samson's final post read, "Everything you've ever doubted or made to be believe as false, is real. & vice versa, B."

The 25-year-old's Facebook page listed his current city as Murfreesboro, Tenn., and his hometown as Khartoum, Sudan. Under political views, Samson wrote, "Your votes mean nothing."

Five shooting victims and the gunman were treated at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, said John Howser, chief of the medical center's communications office.

By Monday morning, one patient was in critical but stable condition, according to the medical center. The four remaining patients were all listed in stable condition.

The gunman was apparently wearing "a type of neoprene mask," Aaron said, adding that it was the kind of half-mask a skier might wear.

"This is a terrible tragedy for our city," Mayor Megan Barry said in a statement. "My heart aches for the family and friends of the deceased as well as for the wounded victims and their loved ones."

[Igor Antunov]

Won't get any attention, doesn't fit narrative.

[The Immortal Goon]

1. Report shooting, every right-winger gets on their knees and cries about how the media hates guns

2. Report shooting on a major national website (on NBC no less) about a black man shooting people, every right-winger gets on their knees and cries about how the media hates white people

Don't you ever get tired of blubbering about what a victim you are?

[Decky]

Don't they have multiple mass shootings every day in every town in the US? It isn't like the media could report all of them, when would there be time to report on anything else at all? Good to see the well organised millitas are doing their jobs and defending the American people anyway.

[Divine Wind]

No. Now, there are some places like Chicago where there are sections of town with high murder rates. Usually gang and drug related. Most of America isn't like the movies or the news makes out.

[maz]

It is interesting that the media did not demand President Trump to condemn this senseless attack on innocent churchgoers like they demanded him to account for death of Heather Heyer, who the media claimed was run over by a white supremacist, but who appears to have died of a heart attack.

When Barack Obama was president, he immediately issued a statement on the Charleston shooting incident. National action was taken to make certain flags, symbols and statues politically incorrect, and set the shooting set in motion the process of their removal.

Statement by the President on the Shooting in Charleston, South Carolina

THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody. This morning, I spoke with, and Vice President Biden spoke with, Mayor Joe Riley and other leaders of Charleston to express our deep sorrow over the senseless murders that took place last night.

Similar statements from President Trump condemning the Nashville shooting incident have not been issued, and no one has called for any political action of any kind.

I also noticed the usual forum members who post on mass shooting in the US ignored this shooting.

I guess it is that white privilege we always hear about that gives more notoriety to white killers such as Dylan Storm Roof, and not black killers like Emanuel Kidega Samson.

We will surely remember the name Dylan Roof, while the church shooters Emanuel Samson will fade away, never to be mentioned again.

[Heisenberg]

Is your objection that Obama should not have condemned Dylann Roof, or that Trump should have been quicker to condemn Emanuel Samson? Is Trump now a politically correct leftard beta-cuck, or is this shooting somehow Obama's fault again? If only we had more sympathy with Dylann Roof, this wouldn't have happened... or something.

It's honestly hard to keep up with whiny alt-right victimhood. It just doesn't make any sense.

[maz]

Is your objection that Obama should not have condemned Dylann Roof, or that Trump should have been quicker to condemn Emanuel Samson.

The objection is that the president did not condemn the shooting at all, unless I missed it, not that he was late in condemning it. It is also objectionable that no other white elected officials, or any elected officials condemned this shooting like they did the Charleston shooting. They all should have immediately condemned it.

[Heisenberg]

OK. So Obama was right to condemn Dylann Roof, then. Which makes the whingeing about how mean everyone was to Dylann Roof seem slightly odd.

[maz]

We expected Obama to condemn Dylan Roof because Obama agitated the black community whenever he could for political effect and to intentionally foment racial tension.

Many people believed President Trump has been similarly agitating the white community in the US. More accurately, they believe in a white conspiracy theory where the president is agitating neo-Nazis so they will rise up and start lynching black people or some similar nonsense.

The fact that President Trump did not condemn the Nashville shooting shows us that there really is no evidence that Trump is agitating the white community for political effect.

[Heisenberg]

I see. So it's all Obama's fault again. I thought that might be the case.

[The Immortal Goon]

More accurately, they believe in a white conspiracy theory where the president is agitating neo-Nazis so they will rise up and start lynching black people or some similar nonsense.

Citation?

Mostly I've seen people upset that Trump was waffling in condemning perceived Nazism. I haven't seen anything that actively said it was a conspiracy.

Or, again, is this more whining about how not enough people think of right-wingers as victims?

[maz]

Citation?

Mostly I've seen people upset that Trump was waffling in condemning perceived Nazism. I haven't seen anything that actively said it was a conspiracy.

The average person on the left who is at least somewhat politically aware thinks that Donald Trump is white supremacist and that he is building some kind of white supremacist coalition to start persecuting blacks and Jews. That is also the existing thesis coming from much of the black intellectual class and like 90% of black entertainers.

Here is the citation you requested which outlines the white supremacist conspiracy theory that has gripped the minds of a good chunk of the American voter, particularly on the left.

Donald Trump, White Supremacy, and the Discourse of Panic

Consider the question of whether it is accurate to describe Trump as a “white supremacist.” Ta-Nehisi Coates adopted this description in a sharp and deservedly praised Atlantic essay. Sports talk-show host Jemele Hill repeated the term. (“Donald Trump is a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself with other white supremacists.”) The Trump administration (displaying its characteristic lack of respect either for freedom of speech or intellectual consistency) demanded her firing. This caused numerous commenters on the left to defend not only Hill’s right to say it — a very sound position — but the substance of what she said. Hill “has a measure of truth on her side,” writes the Washington Post’s Margaret Sullivan. New York Times columnist Charles Blow concurs.

The term “white supremacist” has described a different group of people than standard Republicanism. It meant a member of the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, or some other similar organization that argued explicitly for white power. News articles linking mainstream politicians to white supremacists might mention some secret link between the two — such as the revelation that Representative Steve Scalise had given a speech to a white-supremacist organization — but they were understood to be different movements. Every mention of white supremacists that appeared in the New York Times in the 12 months before Trump’s candidacy referred either to American politicians before the civil-rights era, or to explicit advocates of white power, such as those Scalise was discovered to have met with (but not Scalise himself).

The emergence of the alt-right has created a bridge between conservatism and white supremacy. The term “alt-right” itself has become fuzzy, since actual white supremacists coopted it almost immediately, but it originally referred to a movement occupying the ideological space between Nazism and standard conservatism. The alt-right was more racist than traditional conservatism, but it still did not identify as white supremacist. In one interview, Steve Bannon said, “I’m not a white nationalist, I’m a nationalist.” In another, he called white supremacists “a bunch of clowns.”

All of a sudden, the term is being attached to Trump. The president’s “ideology is white supremacy,” writes Coates. Coates places Trump in a different category than previous presidents when it comes to his treatment of race. But his examples largely amount to behavior with a historical precedent. Like Nixon, Trump has made private expressions of bigotry against African-Americans and Jews. Like many Republican politicians, he has used immigration and crime as wedge issues to foment white hysteria. Coates persuasively argues that Trump has made race more central to his persona than other post-civil-rights politicians, but that is not the same as identifying him as a white supremacist.

Much of the argument for calling Trump a white supremacist rests on collapsing the distinction between accepting a group’s support and sharing all its beliefs. “In Trump, white supremacists see one of their own,” writes Coates. “If you are not completely opposed to white supremacy, you are quietly supporting it,” argues Blow.

This kind of sloppy conflation of adjacent ideological categories is more typically found on the right.

[The Immortal Goon]

Here is the citation you requested which outlines the white supremacist conspiracy theory that has gripped the minds of a good chunk of the American voter, particularly on the left.

This seems like a rather boring discussion about what the term "white supremacist" means and when to apply it.

It hardly reads like:

the president is agitating neo-Nazis so they will rise up and start lynching black people

Perhaps your feelings are getting in the way of your reading comprehension?

[maz]

Obviously, that was hyperbole. But attacks on blacks and Jews because of the Holocaust and slavery is ultimately the end of these conspiracy theories if you engage with any of these people long enough.

People in my own family believe in the literal sense that white supremacists are training with guns in secret locations and they are all waiting for the right time to attack Jews and blacks. They claim that this has to have something to do with President Trump, Steve Bannon and maybe some Russians.

Maybe these people in my family are the most stupid of American voters, but it is a common belief and I see it also on social media.

But none of that changes the fact that neither President Trump or any other elected officials condemned the racist hate crime of a black man shooting white people in a church. And the story has mostly completed it's cycle in the news.