@Victoribus Spolia
You inferred the specific nationalities, I could have been talking about Mexicans in my specific American context, but you jumped straight to the middle-east.
Mexicans are tribal? I also mentioned Africans since, other than that, no one else comes to mind when thinking about stereo-typically "tribal and patriarchal" peoples.
This is off-topic anyway, its seems you have been doing this a lot lately, doing off-topic defense for middle-easterners. Its like a weird little obsession of yours lately.
It's literally the only area I have absolute expertise in. It's not off-topic to present a middle eastern perspective on things. If you are referring to my long drawn out arguments with other posters about Islam, those tend to be on-topic and are usually started by the posters themselves who happen to have a very rudimentary and biased understanding of Islam.
But, the foreigners coming into the west do tend to be more religious, more familial, and more traditional than the native population; which is sufficient for my point.
Ah, I see. I was confused when you said "tribal" given that Mexicans are anything but.
The weakness of western values is the fertile soil underlying its behavior, that there is some weakness in middle easterners of the same generation is nice and all, but the middle-east isn't exactly known for being the harbingers for the SJW movement.
That is true although I have somewhat reasonable concerns with this analysis however they rely on exactly how you define SJWs and complexities in Middle Eastern society I am familiar with but won't delve into now.
Quit trying to make every thread into your personal diatribe about how enlightened the middle east was, is, and will be and how said regions continue to be only insignificantly different from the west (while implying that they are inherently superior and the west robbed them of their rightful place in the world).
My posts have less to do with the Middle East and more to do with Islam and I think my presentation of Islam is anything but enlightened or superior. If you are referring to my debate with you about the contributions of Islamic scholars to the West then I apologize if my posts came across as such. My goal was to explain the idea that Middle Eastern philosophy could be the "missing link" between classical tradition and modern Western philosophy. It wasn't particularly intended to display a sense of superiority. I think you are aware at this point that any blatant show of superiority of the Middle East over the West is supposed to be ironic given your self-professed chauvinism towards others cultures outside of the West. I am glad to see that you are annoyed by constant remarks of superiority since now you know how it feels to be on the receiving end.
Its becoming a tiresome exercise to get into ad verbosium sermantical debates with you surrounding your soft-variant of post-colonial grievances.
If my debates with others come across as full of jargon related to the Middle East without any explanation of such jargon it's because my opponents state that they are knowledgeable of the Middle East, it's history, and it's culture. If this is the case, then they would be capable of understanding all of it.
But I digress, this is becoming increasingly off-topic so I'll take my leave. I hope you enjoy discussing the topic, whatever it may be about.