[Pongo]

Haaretz is EU mouthpiece propaganda organ in Israel ever since it was bought by Nazi family (DuMont) from Germany. This story is interesting test case how their propaganda works. One of German-led EU tactic against Israel is to project its crimes (Nazism, Colonialism, Apartheid) against Israel. The Likud party is natural victim because unlike the left (the Labour signed on Oslo accord) it refuses to go along with EU anti Israel "peace" policy.

Likud Lawmaker Meets With Far-right Austrian Leader Despite Official Israeli Policy

Israel views the Austrian Freedom Party as a racist faction with neo-Nazi elements within it. MK Avi Dichter, after meeting with its leader Heinz-Christian Strache: 'Most of the Arabs I've met are also not my cup of tea.'

Barak Ravid Apr 14, 2016 3:41 PM


http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.714458



Heinz-Christian Strache, leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, at the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, April 12, 2016.
Heinz-Christian Strache, leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, at the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in Jerusalem, April 12, 2016.Reuters / Ronen Zvulun
The leader of the extreme right-wing Austrian Freedom Party, Heinz-Christian Strache, on a visit to Israel this week, met with MK Avi Dichter (Likud), Haaretz learned from David Lasar, who is close to Strache and was present at the meeting. The meeting took place on Wednesday in Ramat Gan, despite the Foreign Ministry's policy to boycott the visit.

Dichter told Haaretz that the meeting with Strache only dealt with the fight against terrorism. "They wanted to know how we deal with terrorism," he said. "It was an interesting meeting." The Likud lawmaker noted that he did not consulted with the Foreign Ministry or the Prime Minister's Office before agreeing to meet with Strache.

"I'm not a member of cabinet, I'm Member of Knesset and if I want to meet someone I decide it myself," he added. "I'm the son of Holocaust survivors and I'm in touch with quite a few people whose opinions I don't like. Most of the Arabs I've met are also not my cup of tea," Dichter, a former Shin Bet chief, said. "I think it's not easy to decide to refrain from meeting with someone who could be the next Austrian Chancellor - [Even] with his past – there should be a good reason for that.

Strache, who arrived in Israel on Monday night, told Channel 1 TV on Wednesday that he had met with government ministers during the course of his visit, but declined to mention names, saying that he had promised confidentiality. The Foreign Ministry announced on Strache’s arrival that he was not here as a guest of the government, and that the government had no connection with the visit.

In fact, Strache was invited to Israel by the Likud party. The official invitation, which Strache posted on his Facebook page, was signed by Eli Barda, head of the Likud’s foreign relations department. The guest’s escort in the country, and the one who set up his meetings, was former MK Michael Kleiner, president of the Likud tribunal. Also involved in the visit and the organization of meetings was former minister Rafi Eitan. Kleiner confirmed to Haaretz that Strache had met with government ministers, but he too refused to identify them, emphasizing that the meetings were of a personal nature.

Haaretz has learned that the event at which Strache met Likud ministers was a reception in his honor on Tuesday night, at the Herzliya Pituach home of David de la Rosa, former Colombian ambassador in Israel. A source familiar with the details of the event noted that Kleiner invited several Likud ministers and lawmakers to the event. Some responded favorably and were in attendance that evening.

Strache is the heir and one-time disciple of Jörg Haider, the late leader of the Austrian Freedom Party, notorious for his anti-Semitic attitudes and support for Nazism. When his party joined the Austrian government in 2000, Israel recalled its ambassador from Vienna in protest; the diplomatic crisis was not resolved until 2003.

The Israeli government views the Freedom Party as a racist party, tainted by anti-Semitism and xenophobia, and even including neo-Nazi elements within it. The official policy of the Foreign Ministry toward the party is one of complete sanction, and it bans meetings between government representatives and party members. For example, former president Shimon Peres rejected Strache’s request for a meeting in light of the unequivocal opposition of the Foreign Ministry, believing that such a meeting would grant legitimacy to the visit.

In recent years, some Israeli right-wingers, among them West Bank settler leaders, have pushed for a change in policy toward Strache and his party. Their primary rationale is his anti-Muslim views and support for Israeli settlement-building. Strache’s supporters in Israel argue that the Foreign Ministry’s attitude toward the Austrian leader and his party is wrong, outdated, and based on ignorance.

Follow recent Freedom party gains on Austrian elections. Haaretz once again tied the party with Likud and Neo Nazis. But on its Facebook page someone recalled the paper they too had Nazi contact. Can't say what happened to the user because I too was banned on Haaretz facebook page after same remark and can't comment their again.

Haaretz's 'Nazi problem'

Eldad Beck

COLOGNE – Controversial deal: The decision to sell 25 percent of Haaretz Group's shares to newspaper and book publisher DuMont Schauberg last week has come under scrutiny as a result of the German publisher's ties with the Nazi regime.


The publishing group's owner at the time, Kurt Neven DuMont – the current owner's father – was reportedly a member of the Nazi party, while his newspapers advanced Nazi ideology. As a result, the publishing house was among the only private ones in Germany whose operations were never outlawed by Hitler.


The publisher's official history makes no mention of historical facts that tie the family to the Nazi regime, even though Kurt Neven DuMont was a member of the Nazi party since 1937. In 1944, he received a prestigious decoration – the same kind also awarded to Gestapo Chief Heinrich Himmler – because he continued to publish newspapers despite heavy allied bombings.
Meanwhile, some historians and journalists claim that the publisher's management has made an effort to prevent various publications regarding the company's and owners' problematic past.

'No choice but to comply'

However, Israel's former Ambassador to Germany Avi Primor has come to current owner Alfred Neven DuMont's defense. In an article he wrote, Primor described the assistance he received from Neven DuMont in his dealings with Germany's business and political elites and said the publishing group's owner has supported various projects in Israel.


Haaretz publisher Amos Schocken responded to the reports, saying that he is aware that Kurt Neven DuMont was a member of the Nazi party. He noted that although the newspaper chain received orders from the Nazis, it had no choice but to comply with the dictates of a dictatorial regime.


"Alfred Neven DuMont (the current owner of the publishing house) has no Nazi past. He was 12 when the war broke out and almost 18 when it ended," Schocken said. "His actions since he has become an adult speak for themselves. There's no reason to impose on him, or the company he now leads, responsibility for a period before his time. This has nothing to do with finding out the historical truth, which is something that should always be done."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 89,00.html

[wat0n]

Unsurprising to see people within the Likud meeting with them despite the opposition of a Foreign Ministry of a Likud-led government, the issue of dealing with the European far-right has always been a controversial one within the Zionist right as the Irgun split in WWII can attest.

Sadly, Dichter may actually have a valid point in that Heider may well be the next Chancellor eventually.

[Pongo]

Haaretz is working here for EU interest to demonize the anti immigration Far Right in favor for EU Arab politik. These parties don't hurt the Jews regardless what their fathers did, but by importing Muslim antisemitism, the mainstream EU parties are real danger for living Jews. We see here how EU is playing with Nazism against the Jewish interests. Nazism and antisemitism today is contained in Muslim and pro Muslim left.

[Hong Wu]

Cool story. It sounds like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or maybe even "it's nice that they're getting along." I would assume that when left-leaning Jews and Austrians/Germans meet, it's a great thing, but when right-leaning Jews and Austrians/Germans meet, somebody is being a racist, although it may not be clear who, how or why. Not unlike how black Republicans are fundamentally racist.

[Heinie]

Apart from not being anti-Jew, there is a lot the Zionists have in common with the inheritors of the Austrian/German Nazism mantel. Everyone sees this except the Israelis.

[Pongo]

The 68ers refuse to accept the centrality of antisemitism to Nazism. Nazism is above all antisemitism thus the current pro Muslim left and European Muslims are the todays Nazism.

[Zionist Nationalist]

Rise of the far right is good for Israel they are against the left parties like the green party in Sweden.

[LehmanB]

How we have decided that rightists are anti-semites, and leftists aren't? It all depands.. and is constantly changing. The Nazis were rather socialists... to remind you.
A libertarian-national party is radicaly different than socialist-national one.

[Frollein]

How we have decided that rightists are anti-semites, and leftists aren't?

Oh, didn't you know that this is state doctrine in Germany since 1945? The Nazis were far-right, and the post-68 lefties are protecting us from ourselves.

[LehmanB]

And in Israel: how can we make relations with "rightists"?sorry, far rightists. (cause there are leftists, moderate leftists, and far rightists.. ).
I think that leftists think they 'protect their societies from themselves' not only in Germany.

[Pongo]

Cool story. It sounds like "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or maybe even "it's nice that they're getting along." I would assume that when left-leaning Jews and Austrians/Germans meet, it's a great thing, but when right-leaning Jews and Austrians/Germans meet, somebody is being a racist, although it may not be clear who, how or why. Not unlike how black Republicans are fundamentally racist.

You put it beautifully.

[Rich]

Apart from not being anti-Jew, there is a lot the Zionists have in common with the inheritors of the Austrian/German Nazism mantel. Everyone sees this except the Israelis.

You talk as if the Nazis were sort of special case, some sort of unique phenomenon. Of course they were unique in the sense that every event every group is unique, but to suggest that the Nazis were somehow morally different from the rest of humanity is absurd. Winners and losers. Winners and losers every system has them and as always the losers whine and the winners pretend their privileges aren't privileges.

I'm always gob smacked by fellow human beings lack of intelligence. To understand the Nazis is so very easy. Look at a map of Europe in 1871 its that simple. Germans had ethnic dispute friction points with the French, the Belgians. the Dutch, the Danish, the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Czechs, the Slovenians, and the Italians. Plus they had the Hapsburg inheritance and all the potential conflicts that brought. It was inevitable that they would end up in a giant conflict and the rest of Europe would stick the blame on them. Particularly as the big Colonial powers Britain, France, Russia and the USA all chose to huddle together. The Nazis are purely the result of the rest of Europe ganging up and bullying Germany.

The Germans quest for internation justice (within the context of early 20th century racist nationalist great power politics) was bound to lead to overreaction.

[LehmanB]

You put it beautifully.

Someone indeed might be racist. But if leftwingers meet... no one is racist suddenly? come on.

[Rich]

The German nationalist response to world war I was understandable even predictable. The Balfour declaration was naturally seen as pay off to international Jewry for bringing America into the war.

This doesn't mean the German nationalists weren't full of shit. If there was one people who had no right to complain about "Judo Bolshevism" it was the Germans. Without the so called Judo- Bolsheviks, which actually included Mensheviks and Social Revolutionaries Germany would have been defeated without American entry into the war.