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The Israeli-Palestinian conflict might be resolved by the creation of two states: Israel, incorporating the Golan Heights and the West Bank, and a separate Palestinian Gaza.

Palestinians within the West Bank would become full citizens of Israel. Minus Gaza, Jews would still be a majority in the enlarged nation. However, to avoid the “right of return” being used as a demographic weapon, new immigrants to Israel would have to be divided equally between Jews and Palestinians, perhaps with a limit of 5,000 each per year. The admission of other foreign workers would be discouraged or banned to enable Palestinians to more fully integrate into the Israeli economy.

The walls and checkpoints in the West Bank would be gradually dismantled.

Gaza would be occupied, governed and demilitarized by forces and administrators from the United Nations and/or a moderate Arab nation such as Jordan for a period of ten years, after which the Gaza residents would be granted full, independent statehood.
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First time an Israeli PM got serious about peace with Palestine, he was shot. Next time, it was just a coma.

Politicians got the message.

So the slow motion ethnic cleansing will continue, just like it has for the previous 50 years.
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As an incentive for Hamas leaders in Gaza to cooperate, many would be granted non-security related administrative posts under the supervision of the occupying forces. In addition, Israel would hold in trust an area of land extending one kilometer into Israel along the entire Israel-Gaza border, which would be ceded to Gaza if the 10-year transition is completed peacefully.

My proposal recognizes “facts on the ground” in terms of Israeli settlements, eliminates the apartheid-like treatment of Palestinians and addresses Israeli concerns about Hamas threats from Gaza.
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@Robert Urbanek I give you a B- for creativity and an A- for daring.

Because the Arabs want it all, "from the river to the sea", and the Israelis no longer believe that "land for peace" is realistic.

If the Arabs claim that they would accept an Israel within the borders of pre-1967, why did they not accept the Jewish Homeland before 1967 ?
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Palestinians were okay with accepting 22% of their land under Arafat, despite being offered 45% in the Balfour Agreement.

But as it happens, Israel controls 100% of the land and pretends it cares about peace, while continuing to build over Palestinian homes and bodies in the occupied territories.

And people like Ter merely hasbara for the Zionists, knowing full well that Israel does not seek peace, merely land, and we also know this because Israel refuses to declare it borders because how else could it expand into neighbouring countries (Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc.)

The Israelis learned well from the Nazis, more better because they have the West supporting their bidding.

Israel is a terrorist state, built on terrorism 71 years ago and something it continues to enact today on the millions it occupies or has forced into a concentration camp named Gaza (something even liberal world leaders admit).

Anyone who thinks Israel is a poor nation merely seeking to live peacefully is willfully ignorant because all the information is out there and has been since Israel's day of dot. You might be forgiven for not realizing the score in the 60s or 70s but from the 80s onwards, lol at your stupidity or aforementioned willful ignorance.
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skinster wrote:Palestinians were okay with accepting 22% of their land under Arafat, despite being offered 45% in the Balfour Agreement.


There skinster goes again with her lies.
Arafat refused the peace deal.
The Arabs want their Palestinian State PLUS the return of the refugees so they can overwhelm the Jewish ?Homeland and transform it into Islamic Shit Hole Number 58.

Anyway, I am still waiting for an answer to my question:
Ter wrote:If the Arabs claim that they would accept an Israel within the borders of pre-1967, why did they not accept the Jewish Homeland before 1967 ?


:roll:
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skinster wrote:Arafat refused to give up any more than 22% of Palestine.


Even your article admits that the return of the refugees was to remain on the table.

Besides:

Ter wrote:The Arabs want their Palestinian State PLUS the return of the refugees so they can overwhelm the Jewish ?Homeland and transform it into Islamic Shit Hole Number 58.


and

Ter wrote:Ter wrote:
If the Arabs claim that they would accept an Israel within the borders of pre-1967, why did they not accept the Jewish Homeland before 1967 ?


No answers...
Just repeating the slogans and the lies
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it is important to look at why many people, some of whom a re otherwise intelligent, fall for every lie put out by (perhaps self appointed) Palestinian spokespersons. The principle seems to be “ anything said by a member of an (allegedly) oppressed group is true” which rests on the deeper postulate “not to believe something said by an (alleged) victim is to continue their victimization.” there is always a chance that pointing out liberals’ neurotic beliefs will help them out of the hell they inhabit.
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Jedothek wrote:
it is important to look at why many people, some of whom a re otherwise intelligent, fall for every lie put out by (perhaps self appointed) Palestinian spokespersons. The principle seems to be “ anything said by a member of an (allegedly) oppressed group is true” which rests on the deeper postulate “not to believe something said by an (alleged) victim is to continue their victimization.” there is always a chance that pointing out liberals’ neurotic beliefs will help them out of the hell they inhabit.



Israel will never approve anything.

They've had a half century, and the only consistent thing they've done is to keep taking land.

Which they will keep doing.

The end result should be obvious even to the oblivious.

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