[skinster]

We were talking about Christian Palestinians, initially, who are persecuted in Palestine along with Palestinians in general.

As to whatever it was that you posted, if you look at the year and consider the War of Terror conducted by the West - which Israel supports, including militarily - I'm guessing that might have something to do with it. But this is off-topic.

[Zionist Nationalist]

if you dont see the connection between the fact that Christians are disappearing in Palestinian territories (majority Muslim) and countries around where Christians are disappearing and they also happen to be majority Muslim than....

Yeah more excuses as usual terror from the west blah blah blah

Muslims can never be wrong or intolerant

[skinster]

I have no interest in repeating myself to dumb and off-topic zionists so...that's that.

Back on topic:
Prof Abdulhadi writes on the concerted strategic smearing of BDS activists on campus in the US by Israel's propagandists.

Chicago SlutWalk stands behind Dyke March, bans ‘Zionist displays’ from August protest

Letter calling on Lincoln Center to cancel Israeli government's “Brand Israel” theater performances

Netanyahu’s Message to the World: Accept Israel as It Is, Occupier and Settler

[Zionist Nationalist]

So again you dont have any arguments because you know you're wrong

[skinster]

[Tailz]

When it becomes a requirement others must accept or suffer penalties, then it is a crusade. Basing your foreign policy on it makes you a fanatic. The West is not immune because they are the West.

This looks like you're just parroting catch-phrases with no real meaning or connection to what I wrote.... like you're just reading catchy t-shirt slogans.

When it becomes a requirement others must accept or suffer penalties, then it is a crusade.

Crusade makes the quest for ethics sound fanatical, which it is obviously neither a crusade or fanatical to seek common ground on morality and ethics. Or to expect people across the world to do better for themselves and each other.

Basing your foreign policy on it makes you a fanatic.

I made no mention of foreign policy.... to strive for better morals and ethics is a personal choice, and hardly the will of nations that are often blinded by nationalist pride. Or at worse, quite willing to do away with morals and ethics in the pursuit of the selfish self interest goals of nationalist movements (power, control, international prestige, and hegemony).

The West is not immune because they are the West.

Immune?

No the west is not immune to criticism, just look at Trump's nepotism as an example. But on the ledger of ethical aptitude around the globe, the west is doing better than most.

But to try and drive this back on topic, the BDS Movement's core criticism has been based on the idea that the continued occupation and the measures of the occupation exceed ethical standards beyond the concepts of Israeli security (at least that is my interpretation). Thus divestment in Israel will harm the Israeli pocket enough to push peace measures to the for as being far more financialy benificial than continuing an occupation that is costing more and more lives and money.

But a blanket ban of Israel as a whole, I'm not in agreement that is the best solution. A boycot of the Jewish Settlements themselves, which exploit the occupation for ethno-religious nationalist gain and self enrichment at the cost of those who are occupied, I can agree too (within measure). But of all Israel, no.

[Silver10]

Wonder how many BDS supporters use electrical devices with Israeli tech inside? Or Medicines developed in part in Israel. Even Hamas leaders send their kids to Israel for treatment. BDS is nothing more than a front for antisemitism as most of the time their actions dont help the ordinary Palestinian. Take the case of Sodastream when they had a factory in the West Bank employing both Muslim and Jew. BDS come along and forced Sodastream to move the factory out of the West Bank making all those ppl redundant. Good work, least it made the do gooders and anti Semits feel better from their comfy western living room.

Judging by the Acts who have played in Israel, the economic numbers and tourists Israel isnt doing to badly despite BDS.

[noir]

A boycott makes it attractive

[skinster]

The long and boring tantrum by zionists about BDS.

Reason 34325 why we boycott:

Illegal Israeli settlers in Palestinian territory today, typically stealing a Palestinian home:

This is who zionists support:

Jewish-American attacked by settlers yesterday.

And then they complain when we non-violently boycott.

[Zionist Nationalist]

More lies

This house is abandoned and there is a legal fight between some Arabs who live there and Jews who bought this home in 2004 and this home was belonging to Jewish families before the pogrom that took place in hebron in 1929

[skinster]

Source?

[Zionist Nationalist]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beit_HaShalom#Financier

[skinster]

Firstly, because your own source says that's Palestinian territory.

Secondly:

[Tailz]

Wonder how many BDS supporters use electrical devices with Israeli tech inside? Or Medicines developed in part in Israel. Even Hamas leaders send their kids to Israel for treatment. BDS is nothing more than a front for antisemitism as most of the time their actions dont help the ordinary Palestinian.

Although I agree many anti-semites thrive within such groups, the criticism of Israel is justifiable when Israel does unjustifiable things. Israel - like anyone else - when it does something reprehensible, should be criticised for that. Doing so, is not anti-semitism.

Calling all criticism of Israel: anti-semitism, actually weakens the importance of the term.

Take the case of Sodastream when they had a factory in the West Bank employing both Muslim and Jew. BDS come along and forced Sodastream to move the factory out of the West Bank making all those ppl redundant. Good work, least it made the do gooders and anti Semits feel better from their comfy western living room.

The only reason Sodastream was in that West Bank settlement, was because it was offered financial incentives (tax breaks) and access to cheap labor & Resources. Had it gotten the same deal elsewhere, Sodastream would have set-up the plant on the Moon. So Sodastream was not there to "help" the Palestinians with jobs in the plant, nor was it there to help the Settler cause. It was there because being there made financial sense.

Plus I think Sodastream moved because it needed to re-tool it's factory, as it changed direction from being a maker of Soft Drinks (which its marketing was failing at) to a maker of sparkling water flavourings. People were drinking water more than soft drinks, thus it was better to rebrand as a sparkling water thing, rather than being a replacement for coke and pepsi.

I personally think BDS is exaggerating their successful impact on Sodastream.

Judging by the Acts who have played in Israel, the economic numbers and tourists Israel isnt doing to badly despite BDS.

Yeah, this is true. But Israel has quite an advantage in the tourism market, it has the holy sites and it is the Homeland of the Jews. So it will have religious pilgrims regardless of BDS, and because Israel and Zionist groups like to keep the diaspora Jews in perpetual fear of their lives (which is partially warranted and partially not), there will be a steady stream of immigrant Jews reguardless of BDS. It is the same tourism advantage Saudi Arabia has with Mecha and the Hajj: lots of religious nutters.

[noir]

The pseudo Pals don't fight for human rights, they fight jihad.

[Tailz]

The pseudo Palestinians don't fight for human rights, they fight jihad.

A poor example of the distraction technique in a debate... the sad thing is, you're not really concerned about the fate of those people who died. You just employed it as a horrific distraction from something that makes your own supported side look bad.

You did exactly what anti-semites do by supporting BDS, you used criticism of a horrible incident as a cloak to mask your own racism and xenophobia in order to attack people your despise. Which in turn cheapened the terrible act itself.

As for ...they fight jihad... sure, let us draw on that parallel. Where is the difference between Muslims struggling for an Islamic homeland to the Jews struggling for their Jewish homeland? Considering the interplay of religious Zionism.

[noir]

This thread is about BDS. That is the hate culture not the turn and the twist of the conflict. The Muslims know what they are fighting for, and they use the words human rights and apartheid to dupe the gullible, because jihad targets all sort of infidels worldwide, western support for demonization of Israel (BDS) has become self-destructive.

[Hindsite]

This thread is about BDS. That is the hate culture not the turn and the twist of the conflict. The Muslims know what they are fighting for, and they use the words human rights and apartheid to dupe the gullible, but the westerners who support this cause are modern Nazis.

In American, they are liberal Democrats, like President Carter.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/forme ... -245424210

[noir]

As for ...they fight jihad... sure, let us draw on that parallel. Where is the difference between Muslims struggling for an Islamic homeland to the Jews struggling for their Jewish homeland? Considering the interplay of religious Zionism.

To whom the land belongs to? The Jews fought for their homeland because it's the ancestral land, the Sunni muslims who infiltrated the land and today call themselves "Palestinians", a term they rejected only few generations ago, fight to convert the Jewish homeland to Islamic. There was a time when the West knew what the war is all about but the Arab propaganda who themselves practice apartheid turn the root cause on its head. Today they presumably fight for "human rights" while appropriating its Jewish biblical heritage to their own (recent UNESCO vote). There is no point to exasperate with this debate, finally the jihad is striking the west as well. Just as during the Nazis, Israel is the canary in the coal mine.

[Zionist Nationalist]

Firstly, because your own source says that's Palestinian territory.

I dont care about the international law.

There is a legal fight over that house and its unsure to who it belongs until the court decides