[wat0n]

I don't think they do. Neither do Zionists for that matter, especially the right-wing types, looking at the accusations of anti-Israel bias lodged by the Israeli government itself against foreign media.

[Dagoth Ur]

Go ahead and shift those goal posts some more.

[wat0n]

Maybe you could say who controls Western media then, Dagoth.

I'd be thrilled to know.

[Frollein]

That sure is a neat reason to endorse terrorism.

A Muslim complaining about terrorism is hilarious.

[Dagoth Ur]

A german supporting terrorism isn't.

Maybe you could say who controls Western media then, Dagoth.

I'd be thrilled to know.

The Atlantic Imperialist bourgeoisie, of whom Israel is a key ally. But hey that's not important or anything.

[wat0n]

The bourgeois you mention probably has an interest in propping the Israeli moderates over the radical right however. Peace is good for business after all.

[Dagoth Ur]

According to whom? American imperial policy is openly one of chaos (rock bottoming resource extraction costs).

[wat0n]

According to the Israeli bourgeois, for instance.

Israeli business interests tend to be supportive of peace efforts. Makes sense since it would open more business opportunities in pretty much all sectors of the Israeli economy (even defense industries).

[KlassWar]

Maybe you could say who controls Western media then, Dagoth.

I'd be thrilled to know.

By and large, the Western capitalist class, simple as that... Plus some compradors from the West's client states.

[AFAIK]

“Why is the BBC reporting biased in favor of Israel?” It featured a quote from Tim Llewellyn, a former BBC Middle East correspondent, who said “We have become used to the fact that, in a BBC newsroom, an Israeli life is worth the lives of an infinite number of Palestinians.”

The Israel lobby likes to mobilise its supporters by getting them to send huge volumes of vitriolic emails to anyone who publishes or broadcasts anything negative about Israel. Nick Davies categorises this as an electric fence in Flat Earth News. The anticipation of an inbox full of complaints and insults is a deterrence to producing unpopular content.

Journalists who write stories which offend the politics of the Israeli lobby are subjected to a campaign of formal complaints and pressure on their editors; most of all, they are inundated with letters and emails which can be extravagant in their hostility. Robert Fisk of the Independent has been told that his mother was Adolf Eichmann’s daughter, that he belongs in hell with Osama bin Laden, that he is ‘a hate peddler’, ‘a leading anti-Semite and proto-fascist Islamophile propagandist’ and a paedophile. After broadcasting an ITV programme about the Palestinians, John Pilger was told he was ‘a demonic psychopath’, a Nazi and that the murder of his family was ‘not a bad idea’. In 2006, a German correspondent was simply told by an Israeli government spokesman that he was ‘a bag of shit’. There is now a network of pro-Israeli pressure groups who specialise in orchestrating complaints against the media. HonestReporting has offices in London, New York and Toronto and claims to have 140,000 members on whom it can call to drench media organisations in letters and emails.

Nick Davies (2008-12-31T17:00:00+00:00). Flat Earth News (Kindle Locations 2125-2130). Random House. Kindle Edition.

[wat0n]

As if reporters writing reports that portray Israel in a good light are not bombarded with hate mail from BDS activists. Nonsense.

Indeed, if hate mail is the most relevant thing your article can mention then the pro-Israel side is pretty weak all in all.

[AFAIK]

As if reporters writing reports that portray Israel in a good light are not bombarded with hate mail from BDS activists. Nonsense.

I was trying to give some background and context to Llewellyn's quote. I don't think the BDS movement has the resources to mobilise on the scale of Zionists. They certainly don't have the backing of a gov't capable of providing political lobbying and PR budgets. Either way it's a deterrence to cover Israel-Paestine. If you're going to receive hate mail and protests regardless of what you say it's easier to say nothing at all.

Indeed, if hate mail is the most relevant thing your article can mention then the pro-Israel side is pretty weak all in all.

If you're judging the strength of the Zionists based on the anecdotes I post on pofo you're going to develop a very inaccurate view of the world.

[wat0n]

Indeed, I prefer to judge it on the facts, including (of course) that Israel doesn't get a particularly favorable coverage on international press. The Israeli government in particular has been pretty ineffective in that regard.

I also don't see how journalists are deterred by hate mail on reporting on the conflict (favoring either side), especially when there is war and press coverage is pretty much in real time.

[Heinie]

Indeed, I prefer to judge it on the facts, including (of course) that Israel doesn't get a particularly favorable coverage on international press. The Israeli government in particular has been pretty ineffective in that regard.

I also don't see how journalists are deterred by hate mail on reporting on the conflict (favoring either side), especially when there is war and press coverage is pretty much in real time.

The Israeli default position is to accuse all of being anti-Semitic if they criticize what the Zionists are doing in Israel and occupied Palestine. If critics are Holocaust survivors, they are accused, instead, of being self-hating Jews. Without question, the Israelis are villains and they get a pass from the media in the European Union and uncritical support from the press and TV in the USA.

[wat0n]

Anti-Israel types accuse pro-Israel journalists of being supporters of Apartheid and the like, I doubt journalists are particularly deterred by these accusations in the slightest.

Also, not taking an absurd anti-Israel position does not equal giving a pass to Israel on the media. That's ridiculous.

[skinster]

If critics are Holocaust survivors, they are accused, instead, of being self-hating Jews.

This is a good article which is related to the OP as well as the above quote:
Opposing BDS means supporting oppression

Related:
The boycott of Israel is an idea whose time has come
G4S loses major contract in Colombia after BDS campaign

[Rich]

The Israeli default position is to accuse all of being anti-Semitic

Only total wankers would accuse the BDS Israel people of being anti Semeitic. That's the whole point about these bigots they call for a boycott of Israel but not Semitic Saudi Arabia.

I've even heard people accuse Adolph Hitler of being anti Semtic when he was hand in glove with that disgusting Semite the Mufti of Jerusalem.

[Heinie]

This is a good article which is related to the OP as well as the above quote:
Opposing BDS means supporting oppression

I just read the article and it does indeed make the point that the Israelis are increasingly worried about the efficacy of BDS. It also mentions Hedy Epstein, a Holocaust survivor who is persona non grata in Israel because she opposes the brutal occupation of Palestine. She is a member of Code Pink, an American NGO which works to end U.S.-funding of wars and occupations around the world. When Code Pink was recently slated to receive the Wilhelmine-von-Bayreuth Prize for Tolerance and Humanity in Cultural Diversity from the city of Bayreuth recently, The American Jewish Committee, the Central Council of Jews in Germany, and the Israeli ambassador to Germany went into overdrive to have the award rescinded on the grounds that Code Pink is anti-Semitic and had referred to Israel as an apartheid state.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/fury-as-german-city-plans-tolerance-prize-for-pro-bds-group/
In response, Code Pink released their correspondence with the mayor of Bayreuth refuting the false Israeli propaganda.
http://www.codepink.org/letters_to_mayor_brigitte_merk_erbe


Holocaust survivor, Hedy Epstein (91), designated as a self-hating Jew by the Israelis

[Pisa]

@"The atlantic western Israel-allied imperialist bourgeois media" fans.

Oh, how I wish you could spend some 20-30 years in a non-atlantic non-imperialist non-bourgeois state. Like one of the former east-european soviet satellites. Sadly, there aren't many of those left today. I wonder why...Maybe North Korea?

The Israel lobby likes to mobilise its supporters by getting them to send huge volumes of vitriolic emails to anyone who publishes or broadcasts anything negative about Israel. Nick Davies categorises this as an electric fence in Flat Earth News. The anticipation of an inbox full of complaints and insults is a deterrence to producing unpopular content.

Did Nick Davis wrote about the vitriolic emails, online petitions, open letters and thousands of furious tweets every artist who considers performing in Israel gets from BDS?

No, why would he? What's sauce for the BDS goose, is not sauce for the zionist gander.

I'd ask Nick Davis if the famous "to silence BDS is to repress freedom of speech" mantra also works for "to silence zionists is to repress freedom of speech".

I don't think the BDS movement has the resources to mobilise on the scale of Zionists.

NGOs that promote BDS are funded by the EU, european governments, private foundations, religious charities.

One example: Al Haq, palestinian NGO promoting BDS, founded in 1979, received over the years donations from Bread for the World - Evangelical Church Development Service (Germany), Christian Aid (UK), Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Diakonia (former Swedish Free Church Aid, funded by Sweden, EU, and UN agencies), Federal Government of Belgium, Heinrich Boll Stiftung (Germany, funded by the government), Interchurch Organization for Development Cooperation (ICCO - Netherlands, funded by EU and Dutch government), Human Rights and International Law Secretariat (funded by Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands), Open Society Institute (US).

But, of course, the narrative of the weak opressed palestinians shouldn't be spoiled with such trivial details as funding, or freedom of action on the territory their zionist opressors are scrupulously and genocidal-ishly (yes, I wrote that, kill me) err...oppressing or somewhat.

I also don't see how journalists are deterred by hate mail on reporting on the conflict (favoring either side), especially when there is war and press coverage is pretty much in real time.

They're not.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-an ... uide?all=1

Here goes the atlantic imperialist zionist burgeois media theory up in smoke. It won't be missed.

This is a good article which is related to the OP as well as the above quote:
Opposing BDS means supporting oppression

An excellent article if you like soap operas.

Back to reality: it does not contain one iota of information. Only tears squeezing empty rhetoric. Argumentum ad populum.

Only total wankers would accuse the BDS Israel people of being anti Semeitic. That's the whole point about these bigots they call for a boycott of Israel but not Semitic Saudi Arabia.

I've even heard people accuse Adolph Hitler of being anti Semtic when he was hand in glove with that disgusting Semite the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Yeah, I've even heard some people think jews invented the term "antisemite". Preposterous, isn't it?

Why, oh why, don't some people use google? And more google...

[Dagoth Ur]

lol "YOU DIDN'T LIVE SOMEWHERE I SAID IS BAD SO YOU ARE WRONG!"

You argue like a child but I bet you are actually just old and immature.