[Zionist Nationalist]

Everyone I know support the soldier and say they would do the same

[Heinie]

Top Israeli officials who issued directive to execute Palestinians hang Hebron killer out to dry.

Zionist politicians and military leaders are the very creeps who will scurry to ground once the predictable consequence of their incitement to murder is followed by the trigger-pullers. Remember too that young Israeli soldiers are draftees, having been brainwashed by bitter parents and ideological schoolteachers who fill the heads of children and adolescents with hate toward Palestinians. We have seen all this happen before in other places and at other times. Turning a nation into sociopaths is easy enough to do when respect for ethics and human values is missing among political leaders, educators, and around the kitchen tables in ordinary homes.

[Pongo]

Most of the supporters identified themselves as right-wingers, or even radical rightists. The profiles of some are known as rightwing activists who respond to every incident. Some 15 percent of the posts attacked B'Tselem, the left-wing NGO that provided the camera with which the incident was filmed and distributed the video.

The Vigo data shows similar reactions to the Brussels terror attacks earlier in the week. Some 39 percent said that the Europeans had it coming to them and that the Brussels bombings were the result of European support for the Palestinians.

"We call on both sides to show restraint," some right-wing activists wrote satirically. "Belgium must stop its building in East Brussels."



The community seems to be pretty evenly split over the execution. Although the swing to focusing hate on the Europeans in baffling.

Yes, the feeling is is one of revenge and justice. Also B'tselem is financed by EU.

Summer 2014, Belgian BDS members staging Israel crimes/self defense on the same airport that was attacked yesterday. They tried to fuel Arab Antisemitism and European hatred against Israel but ended up with their own demise.

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After suicide bombing attacked Israel

Editorial in a Belgian P-Magazine (13 Dec. 2001).

"I do not like the shape of the country of Israel. To me, its shape is far too thin and far too long. It makes me think of a worm [tenia]. I do not like Israel's policies. To me, they are far too bloody and have no respect for the native population. I do not like the Jewish religion in the country of Israel. To me, this religion is too arrogant and parasitic¦ I am not antisemitic. Palestinians are Semites. Israel is systematically assassinating Semites¦ Slowly but surely, Europe is liberating itself from the penitence, which has been inflicted on it since World War II. Indeed, it is bizarre that it has taken so long for the world to realize that one genocide does not justify another.

It shows Europeans Palestinian fetishisation seems most explicable as the perverse by-product of the suppression of their traditional anti-Semitism.

Old links

Anti-Zionism in Belgium - The Country's Civil Religion that Reflects the New Anti-Semitism

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-29.htm


Anti-Semitism Worldwide 2001/2. Anti-Semitic motifs in Belgian anti-Israel propaganda

http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/full ... speaker=96

Israel on trial in Brussels: Iranian and Syrian Ambassadors give standing ovation to judges

http://philosemitism.blogspot.co.il/200 ... nd_27.html

How the EU-NGO alliance destabilizes Jerusalem

http://philosemitism.blogspot.co.il/201 ... lizes.html

Belgian politician: Muslims are better integrated than Jews who dread foreign people

http://philosemitism.blogspot.co.il/201 ... etter.html

Belgian NGO incites children to shoot at Israeli soldiers at the Ghent Fair

http://philosemitism.blogspot.co.il/201 ... shoot.html

Belgian opera shows Jew raping woman in anti-Israel piece

http://philosemitism.blogspot.co.il/200 ... an-in.html

[Zionist Nationalist]

Zionist politicians and military leaders are the very creeps who will scurry to ground once the predictable consequence of their incitement to murder is followed by the trigger-pullers. Remember too that young Israeli soldiers are draftees, having been brainwashed by bitter parents and ideological schoolteachers who fill the heads of children and adolescents with hate toward Palestinians. We have seen all this happen before in other places and at other times. Turning a nation into sociopaths is easy enough to do when respect for ethics and human values is missing among political leaders, educators, and around the kitchen tables in ordinary homes.

Haha maybe its the other way around check what the Palestinians are teaching in schools before you post things you dont know anything about
Palestinians are the ones who are sociopath they are brainwashed since age of 0 thats why we see those attacks recently by teenagers and young adults

seriously just check your facts before you post such bullshit

[danholo]

Zionist politicians and military leaders are the very creeps who will scurry to ground once the predictable consequence of their incitement to murder is followed by the trigger-pullers. Remember too that young Israeli soldiers are draftees, having been brainwashed by bitter parents and ideological schoolteachers who fill the heads of children and adolescents with hate toward Palestinians. We have seen all this happen before in other places and at other times. Turning a nation into sociopaths is easy enough to do when respect for ethics and human values is missing among political leaders, educators, and around the kitchen tables in ordinary homes.

I agree; Islam is a scourge and the hate it teaches its adherents is destructive within the Middle East and Europe. Muslims murder each other and the non-believers daily as a true act of faith. How can this be avoided? Children and adolescents have been brainwashed by bitter parents and ideological schoolteachers to hate the non-believer and the Jew. A true lack of ethics and human values has crippled Islamic society to the brim where Israelis have no choice but to be fearful of an incapacitated fool.

It is truly unfortunate that this soldier acted as he did; for all we know he interpreted the situation where guidelines allowed him to fire his weapon and kill the detained attacker. Objectively this might not be the case, of course, but our resident anti-racists have already interpreted this to be a symptom of a lack of values within Israeli society. True anthropologists you are!

It is indeed unfortunate that among many Israelis, Palestinians have been reduced to a racist NIMBY population. Arguably Israelis are their own worst enemy; a severe mistrust towards the other has been a self-fulfilling prophecy to the point where No sane Israeli would want a fervently brainwashed population as their neighbor; they teach nothing but death, martyrdom and antisemitism. They have no capacity to love, rejoice or dream; a nation of brainwashed sociopaths, Palestinians and their supporters will scurry around and always blame the Zionist or the Jew for their own hate and calamities.

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Ah, only if reality were so black and white.

Haha maybe its the other way around check what the Palestinians are teaching in schools before you post things you dont know anything about
Palestinians are the ones who are sociopath they are brainwashed since age of 0 thats why we see those attacks recently by teenagers and young adults

Ah, the eternal pissing contest of who's more evil and who we can make look less human. This is the ultimate addiction of Israel/Palestine.

seriously just check your facts before you post such bullshit

He did; All the facts he looked at were confirmation bias.

[Pongo]

Israelis protesting against the treatment of the soldier by the top brass

"General Eisenkiot, we need an Israeli Chief of Staff not a Belgian Chief of Staff"

http://s30.postimg.org/k4h54xzkh/image.jpg

[danholo]

Dumb people... If the soldier was out line, he was out of line. Nothing excuses it, stupidity included.

[skinster]

The murder took place in Hebron in the West Bank, where Palestinians live in their internationally-recognized territory and where Israelis are illegally occupying and living when they shouldn't even be there.

Here Gideon Levy here talks to Max Blumenthal about apartheid in Hebron, fascism in Israel, settler tyranny, the US's support of the occupation and how BDS is the only hope to end it:
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Richard Silverstein reveals the identity of the killer and his commanding officer here.

[Heinie]

The murder took place in Hebron in the West Bank, where Palestinians live in their internationally-recognized territory and where Israelis are illegally occupying and living when they shouldn't even be there.

Here Gideon Levy here talks to Max Blumenthal about apartheid in Hebron, fascism in Israel, settler tyranny, the US's support of the occupation and how BDS is the only hope to end it ...

Gideon Livy is an experienced voice of reason, insight, and truth. In the interview he says, "The U.S. is the big financier of the Zionist Project and the big financier of the Settlement Project ... Without the U.S. there is no occupation ... BDS has a very concrete goal and this is to put an end to the occupation." This is it in a nutshell.

[Pongo]

They are all paid by EU

Haaretz Columnist Gideon Levy Wins 2015 Olof Palme Prize

The prize worth 75,000 dollars was created in 1987 in memory of late Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme, who was assassinated in 1986. Levy was the recipient of the Peace Through Media Award in 2012; the Euro-Med Journalist Prize for 2008 (for an article about children killed by the IDF); the Leipzig Freedom Prize in 2001.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.696049

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[danholo]

The murder took place in Hebron in the West Bank, where Palestinians live in their internationally-recognized territory and where Israelis are illegally occupying and living when they shouldn't even be there.

Here Gideon Levy here talks to Max Blumenthal about apartheid in Hebron, fascism in Israel, settler tyranny, the US's support of the occupation and how BDS is the only hope to end it:
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A very wise and somber fellow; Levy describes quite eloquently where the Occupation has led Israel and how it is ultimately Israel's worst enemy. Him mentioning how Israel's youth knows 'nothing about nothing' rings true to my ears on an anecdotal level. It is true that the youth pretty much everywhere is ignorant but Israelis can't afford it unfortunately. An unusual strain for youth, but a necessary one. Israel suffers from its own normalcy while being completely abnormal at the same time. Much could be said about the topic but I believe Levy sets describes the outliers of the problem very well. It doesn't matter who 'funds' him; no one is a prophet on his own land.

[Pongo]

It doesn't matter who 'funds' him; no one is a prophet on his own land.

Are you serious? For this reason Israelis were happy when Europe was striked recently by Arab terrorists.

It illustrates the EU’s long-standing policy of eroding Israel’s internal  cohesion, while  strengthening the Palestinian cause. Also, the EU is attempting to force major changes in Israeli policy by circumventing democratic structures and diplomatic channels. In parallel, this small group of NGOs (B'tselm, Breaking the Silence etc.), under the façade of an ill-defined "civil society," is marshaling foreign backing for positions repeatedly rejected by Israeli citizens.

[redcarpet]

It wouldn't matter if Israel's NGOs didn't get foreign funding, the worst of the Israeli Right would still be hounding them. The use of the words 'traitors', 'treason' and 'fifth column' would persist.

[danholo]

Are you serious? For this reason Israelis were happy when Europe was striked recently by Arab terrorists.

It illustrates the EU’s long-standing policy of eroding Israel’s internal  cohesion, while  strengthening the Palestinian cause. Also, the EU is attempting to force major changes in Israeli policy by circumventing democratic structures and diplomatic channels. In parallel, this small group of NGOs (B'tselm, Breaking the Silence etc.), under the façade of an ill-defined "civil society," is marshaling foreign backing for positions repeatedly rejected by Israeli citizens.

I disagree. Levy has been pretty much marginalized in Israeli society to the point where he's hounded as a traitor, so I don't know what cohesion you are talking about. Also, the organizations you mention get the same treatment according to Levy in his interview. It's not they are entirely correct or not but the fact that their opinions are completely disregarded is the problem; calling them out as traitors and 'a fifth column' is an attitude held by fools and idiots, IMO.

If Israel lacks a moral backbone towards its own cause where intelligentsia understand the corruption of its own policies, no outside source can be attributed to its lack of cohesion. I'm not the one to solely blame Israel on the situation because it takes two to tango and one sides extremist fuels the other side's but I'd think anyone honest with themselves can see what the occupation has wrought in Israel.

I'm perfectly aware of why the occupation came to be but I'm not going to fool myself into believing that defense is the sole reason for its prolonged existence. Israel's idea has been soiled by its messianic components which is why religion plays a very strong role in Israeli society - for good and bad. It makes Israeli culture rich and diverse but it also is heavily invested in keeping the entire land. While it would be a pain to see Israel relinquish the territories, it seems to be the only logical way forward but ultimately it doesn't seem to be a viable option despite its allure.

Israel ultimately needs to make a choice - keep all the land and give citizenship to the Palestinians - at worse kick those out who refuse to pledge allegiance to the state - or remove itself from the territories. You can't occupy a foreign population forever and wish them away.

[Pongo]

But his damage is abroad. See how Palestinian cheerleaders here quote him as if he's a gospel. For them, the EU’s covert war against Israel, through its Palestinian Arab allies, has a deep and resentful motives.

[Tailz]

Yes, the feeling is is one of revenge and justice.

Certainly there is revenge. Revenge attacks have been driving this conflict for years.

As for justice, the conflict stopped having anything to do with justice generations ago.

Also B'tselem is financed by EU.

So? Settler & right wing groups get funds from foreign sources too, should they be prosecuted too? Or are you happy to turn a blind eye to that?

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post, which was an alphabet soup explanation to justify your hatred of Europeans.

But his damage is abroad.

So your upset, not with the actual subject matter of the message, but the fact that the message makes your supported side look bad?

[Heinie]

100 demonstrators demand release of ‘hero of Israel’ who killed disarmed Palestinian assailant
"Supporters of the Israel Defense Forces soldier charged with murder for shooting a disarmed Palestinian attacker in Hebron last week rallied in the central city of Beit Shemesh on Monday, calling for his release from custody."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/dozens-rally-in-beit-shemesh-in-support-of-hebron-soldier/
An IDF medic shooting a disabled and wounded Palestinian in the head to confirm the kill is considered an heroic act by Israelis.

Meanwhile, a new video shows the IDF soldier shaking hands with the leader of a banned Jewish organization as the body of the incapacitated Palestinian he executed was being carried away.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/New-Video-Shows-Israeli-Soldier-Shaking-Hands-with-Extremist--20160327-0027.html

[danholo]

Where is it mentioned that the soldier is a medic?

[Heinie]

Where is it mentioned that the soldier is a medic?

The killer is identified as a medic in this article:
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2016/03/26/breaking-identities-of-idf-soldier-who-executed-unarmed-palestinian-and-his-commanding-officer-exposed/

[danholo]

I question the veracity of that article/blog. Unless there is medical corps within the IDF that has the insignia which the perpetrator wears:



I'd assume that he is a fighter/other. Any and all pictures where he is has nothing to do with medical duties.



Medical corps insignia:



This blog also goes into a conspiracy about the soldier being allowed permission By his commanding officer to shoot the assailant.

Several minutes later, without consulting with his commanders, the suspect loaded a bullet into the chamber of his assault rifle and, in front of his comrades, shot the Palestinian in the head

The blog you posted takes too many liberties to make a point to the effect to believe that the blog is not a credible source at all, quite the contrary. "Tikun olam" achieved with lies?