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Israel Cheering Donald Trump’s Win, Renews Calls to Abandon 2-State Solution wrote:JERUSALEM — Emboldened by the Republican sweep of last week’s American elections, right-wing members of the Israeli government have called anew for the abandonment of a two-state solution to the conflict with the Palestinians.

“The combination of changes in the United States, in Europe and in the region provide Israel with a unique opportunity to reset and rethink everything,” Naftali Bennett, Israel’s education minister and the leader of the pro-settlement Jewish Home party, told a gathering of the Foreign Press Association in Jerusalem on Monday.

Mr. Bennett, who advocates annexing 60 percent of the occupied West Bank to Israel, exulted on the morning after Donald J. Trump’s victory: “The era of a Palestinian state is over.”

That sentiment was only amplified when Jason Greenblatt, a lawyer and co-chairman of the Trump campaign’s Israel Advisory Committee, told Israel’s Army Radio that Mr. Trump did not consider West Bank settlements to be an obstacle to peace, in a stark reversal of longstanding American policy.

Members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party and other rightist politicians jumped to make hay of the change.

Yoav Kish, a Likud member of Parliament, called for the expansion of Israeli sovereignty into the West Bank; Meir Turgeman, the chairman of Jerusalem’s municipal planning committee, said he would now bring long-frozen plans for thousands of Jewish homes in the fiercely contested eastern part of the city up for approval.

Aryeh Deri, the interior minister, who is ultra-Orthodox, hailed Mr. Trump’s victory as a miracle, asserting it would lessen the influence of liberal, non-Orthodox streams of Judaism popular in America. He added, “We must truly be in Messianic times when everything will turn out favorably for the people of Israel.”

Mr. Netanyahu, whose previous three terms in office all coincided with Democratic administrations in the United States, has been more cautious.

Adding to his troubles, Israel’s Supreme Court on Monday rejected a government request for a seven-month delay of the demolition of an illegal West Bank outpost built on privately owned Palestinian land. The court-ordered demolition is slated for Dec. 25, and the government had argued for the delay in part to temper a potentially violent settler response.

On Sunday, a ministerial committee of rightists within the Likud party and the governing coalition approved a contentious bill to retroactively legalize illegal settlement on privately owned Palestinian land. Prompted by the effort to salvage the Amona outpost, it may be a precursor of things to come.

Although the pro-settler camp was promoting the bill long before Mr. Trump’s victory, the decision was taken, unusually, over Mr. Netanyahu’s vehement objections and despite his exhortations for it to be postponed.

Tzipi Livni, a centrist former foreign minister and justice minister who now sits in the Parliamentary opposition, denounced the settlement bill, writing on Twitter that it constitutes “major damage to the rule of law at home, damage to Israel abroad, and primarily conveys a message that might makes right, when faced with a weak prime minister.”

Mr. Netanyahu warmly welcomed Mr. Trump’s victory, calling him “a true friend” of Israel. But Mr. Netanyahu has also since instructed his ministers and legislators to be discreet, saying the incoming administration should be allowed “to formulate — together with us — its policy vis-à-vis Israel and the region through accepted and quiet channels, and not via interviews and statements.”

Mr. Netanyahu endorsed the principle of a Palestinian state in 2009, under American pressure and with caveats. Since then, he has tried to balance between world opinion and his right-wing constituency by declaring support for a solution based on two states for two peoples without going out of his way to advance it.

Israeli analysts point out that the Trump campaign has spread contradictory messages. While many here assume that he will have more pressing priorities than the long-running Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Mr. Trump told The Wall Street Journal on Friday that he would like to seal an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, calling it the “ultimate deal.”

Mr. Netanyahu’s critics on the right, however, assume a Trump administration will at least give Israel a freer hand in areas like settlement construction. They say Mr. Netanyahu will have to decide which side he is on.

Acknowledging that Mr. Trump’s positions are not entirely clear, Mr. Bennett, the leader of Jewish Home, said, “We have to say what we want first.”

Amit Segal, a political commentator for Israel’s popular Channel 2 News, said that during the tenures of Presidents Clinton and Obama, Mr. Netanyahu could “disguise his worldview.” The Obama administration’s sharp condemnation of all settlement activity gave Mr. Netanyahu “the ultimate excuse” for not building with abandon in the West Bank, Mr. Segal said in an interview, adding, “I am not sure that the right wing, with its appetite, will be prepared to suffer another few years of that.”

Asked what Mr. Netanyahu would probably be rooting for, Israelis who generally reflect the prime minister’s thinking said he was unlikely to forswear the two-state solution.

“Israel has its own interest in reaching a negotiated solution with its neighbors,” said Dore Gold, a longtime Netanyahu adviser who recently resigned from his position as director general of Israel’s foreign ministry. “This is not a function of pressure or arm-twisting. Prime Minister Netanyahu has made it clear that this is his goal.”

But Mr. Gold suggested that a Trump administration was likely to roll back the demand that Israel withdraw to the 1967 lines and support borders that are more accommodating to Israel. “Trump’s policy paper spoke about Israel having defensible borders, which are clearly different from the 1967 lines,” he said.

Michael B. Oren, a deputy minister in the prime minister’s office and a former Israeli ambassador to the United States, told Israel Radio: “We have to ask ourselves what is in Israel’s interests. The interest of the Israelis and, in my view, of the government, is indeed to achieve peace with the Palestinians through direct negotiations, without preconditions, at any time, in order to get to a solution of two states for two peoples.”

Gilead Sher, an Israeli former peace negotiator under the left-leaning governments of Ehud Barak and Yitzhak Rabin, noted that although most of the Israeli governments over the past four decades had been right-wing, “never has one of them annexed one square inch of the West Bank.”

Mr. Sher, now a senior research fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University, is also co-chairman of Blue White Future, an Israeli group advocating a two-state solution, by unilateral means if necessary. Of the rejoicing on the Israeli right, he said, “Most joyful moments are provisional and temporary.”


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Indeed. We are chearing great deal. Most of the Israelis were on Trump camp all along, on the other side, most of the American Jewry were on Clinton camp side. Right now there is a great "antisemitic" backlash against the Jews in America by Trump hardcore supporters.

Adding, one can see on pro Clinton riots many Palestinian flags, even on Bernie Sanders rallies, who is radical Jew, some burned Israeli flags. The Israeli people prayed for the American liberal (many of them Jews) demise.



Liberal American Jews are whining about the nasty backlash

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/emmy-ros ... supporters


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The BDS movement is costing Israel billions of dollars. This is the way forward and it is hurting them. It has snowballed.


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Zionist Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked told the Jewish National Fund in New York on Sunday that the Boycott, Divest and Sanctions ( BDS ) movement is the new face of ” terrorism “.

Speaking at a Jewish National Fund (JNF) conference in New York, the hardline right-wing minister compared the BDS campaign to tunnels under the Gaza border fence.

“Sometimes the BDS movement’s funding sources are identical to those funding the terrorist organisations,” Shaked claimed, adding: “This is the new face of terrorism.”

” While in Gaza (the terrorists)are digging underground tunnels into Israel, the BDS movement is digging tunnels to undermine the foundations and values of Israel. We have to stop these tunnels as well.”

“Supporters of the BDS movement,” Shaked added, “are attempting to smear our very right to exist. They refuse to accept our most natural, basic, and simple right – the existence of the State of Israel.

Therefore, Shaked said: “The BDS is illegitimate. I define it thus: BDS is another branch of terrorism in the modern age.”

Speaking to a primarily Jewish American audience, Shaked regretted that “there are also some young Jewish liberals who get confused and are led astray by this movement.”

“They swallow the lies that the Palestinian propaganda disseminates. They have fallen into this web and are not even aware of the fact that the mechanisms pulling the strings are terrorists from radical Islam.”

Regardless of what mask terror wears, she said, one simple truth stands out: “You cannot defeat the enemy unless you call it what it is. That is why I am not afraid to do so. We are fighting Islamic extremism,” she said pointedly
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The article says that a Trump backer Chris Christie has pushed measures against the BDS, not that Trump has made such promises.

I googled Chris Christie and the first thing that popped up was:

President-elect Donald Trump's transition team continues to purge Chris Christie associates from his cabinet.
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The Zionists with their assault on the Palestinians have created and increased over the last 50 years the hatred towards the believers of Judaism (as well as the west) world wide. Most of them will have to fuck off to Israel.

BDS will start to bite as well.
This month marks the 10-year anniversary of the BDS (Boycott Divestment and Sanctions) movement, in response to Israel’s decade’s long occupation of Palestine and the humanitarian crisis that has been created as a result.
BDS aims to pressure Israel into halting the occupation and colonization of Palestinians by hitting Israel in its pockets, persuading and pressuring businesses into cutting ties with Israel, hence the name ‘boycott divestment and sanctions’.

The thinking is similar to the campaign that mobilized a boycott of South Africa during the apartheid rule of the country, when the white minority controlled the larger black indigenous population.

A far cry from how many in the media try to characterise the movement, BDS is a legal, peaceful, practical, and effective way of drawing attention to the plight of the Palestinians, while at the same time impacting the apartheid state where it hurts. BDS has enjoyed many successes, having morphed in the eyes of Israel from being a mere side issue a few years ago, to apparently now presenting one of the greatest ‘existential threats’ to Israel’s security.
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noir wrote:The Pals are as fictitious ppl as the Syrians and the Iraqis. Only Israel protects them from killing one another. The are the most lucky people with the best health, education and nurition any non oil Arab has get.


Keep on repeating the Zionist propaganda.
You say the Palestinians are lucky. Are you serious?

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anarchist23 wrote:The BDS movement is costing Israel billions of dollars. This is the way forward and it is hurting them. It has snowballed.


Too optimistic. From what I've read BDS has had a negligible impact.
As for the Mideast policy Trump will actually pursue, I don't think it'll differ markedly from current policy. In view of the power of the pro-Israel crowd, it doesn't make much difference who is in the White House. Obama made noises in response to settlement expansion, but that's as far as it went. The Israelis can do anything they want on the West Bank, confident their apologists and power brokers preclude meaningful opposition here.
The mere perception of Trump as someone favorable to, or indifferent to, an extremist agenda bodes ill for the Palestinians. It's a green light for Israel's far right. Israelis like Bennet will soon get their way, and then some.
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In regards the BDS movement, it is gaining momentum.
If the Zionists want to live in a war zone where the young are conscripted into the military, so be it. The Israelis will never have peace, and that is the price they will have to pay.

The tide is turning.

Jerusalem (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Sunday that France's parliament would be making a "grave mistake" if it recognises a Palestinian state in a vote on December 2.

"Do they have nothing better to do at a time of beheadings across the Middle East, including that of a French citizen?" he told reporters in Jerusalem, referring to hiker Herve Gourdel who was executed by his jihadist captors in Algeria in September.

"Recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a grave mistake," Netanyahu said.

"The State of Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, the only state that we have, and the Palestinians demanding a state do not want to recognise the right to have a state for the Jewish people," Netanyahu told members of Israel's growing Jewish community from France.

His comments came just hours after his cabinet voted 14-6 in favour of a controversial proposal to anchor in law Israel's status as "the national homeland of the Jewish people".

France's plans for a non-binding but highly symbolic vote follows similar resolutions passed by the British and Spanish parliaments, and an official decision to recognise Palestine by the Swedish government.

Sweden's move infuriated Israel which responded by recalling its ambassador to Stockholm.

A draft of the proposal in France "invites the French government to use the recognition of the state of Palestine as an instrument to gain a definitive resolution of the conflict".

European leaders have shown signs of mounting impatience with Israel over its continued settlement-building on Palestinian land.

Criticism has become more focused in the wake of this summer's 50-day offensive by the Israeli army in Gaza that killed about 2,200 Palestinians and dozens of Israelis.

The French parliamentary vote follows a similar resolution to "recognise the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution" approved by British lawmakers on October 13.

Israel warned that the British resolution, which passed with a huge majority but is also non-binding, risked undermining peace prospects.

Sweden went further by announcing on October 30 that it officially recognised the Palestinian state, a move heavily criticised by Israel and the United States.

The Palestinian Authority estimates that 135 countries have now recognised Palestine as a state, although the number is disputed and several recognitions by what are now European Union member states date back to the Soviet era.

France was among 14 EU nations which voted in favour of granting Palestinian territories observer status at the United Nations in November 2012.
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