[Zionist Nationalist]

North Korea will cease to exist in the coming decades nothing to be scared of a country that is going to disappear soon or later

[Truth To Power]

You really will believe anything.

? And you have the gall to accuse anyone else of gullibility??

As they say in Japan, "It's mirror time!"

Dennis Rodman actually went to the DPRK and he had lots of nice things to say about it.

Google, "Potemkin village" and start reading.

It seems like a lovely place.

Have you ever been there? By every objective measure, it is a hell-hole.

In South Korea the suicide rate is huge, why would that be so if they were not suffering under the horrific oppression of the United States?

Maybe because its rate of alcohol abuse is also huge? There is a strong link between drug and alcohol use and suicide, and many of the Eastern European countries with high suicide rates also have high rates of alcohol use. By contrast, suicide is almost unknown in Muslim countries where alcohol use is rare:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... per_capita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate

If NK is so much better than SK, why are people 5-8cm taller in SK, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

[noir]

I always thought that when the British Mandate expired, the Jews really missed a trick by not including Gaza & the West Bank in their claim for territory.
Had they done the job properly, they wouldn't have the problems that they have to contend with now.

Having said that, just as the Arab terrorist vow Israel's non- recognition or destruction, so too must the Arab terrorist live under the continuous threat of Israeli retaliation.
It takes two to tango, the Arabs will never have peace, as long as they desire the destruction of Israel & rightly so.

Maybe the time will come when Israel tells the scumbag terrorist hugging lefties of this world to 'F' off & complete the 1948
establishment of it's state by staking it's claim on the whole of the West Bank-Jerusalem along with Gaza.

@Nonsense , Israel couldn't include the West Bank because the British were the guardian of "Trans Jordan kingdom". Israel occupied the West Bank in 1967 but at that time the British didn't object it.

[Decky]

Have you ever been there? By every objective measure, it is a hell-hole.

I would like to but it costs thousands of pounds for a British person to go on one of the state approved tours.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asi ... 76981.html

The 13 day liberation day tour costs £2650.

Even the Christmas tour is £1520 and that's far too short anyway.

I will have to go to Belarus instead.

[anarchist23]

How about this for a school trip to a concentration camp.
I forbid my kid from going by overnight coach from Essex. It's propaganda used by the Zionists.

[Zionist Nationalist]

Thats right

damn Jews with their holohoax...

[noir]

Britain is partly responsible* for the Holocaust, if the the British students are not taught about it than it's propaganda.

*Referring to the White Paper of 1939

[anarchist23]

Israelis use the same methods as ISIS. This is not propaganda. lol

Securing themselves as the unique and dominant authority.
Troubling reports have the Islamic State destroying Christian churches and relics, most prominently those of the Assyrian Church of the East. Israel has also tried to consolidate its ethnic appearance.
Meron Rappoport, History Erased, Haaretz, Jul. 5, 2007 reports that "during the 1950s, the nascent state and IDF set about destroying historical sites left behind by other cultures, particularly Muslims." Rappaport continues with....

According to a book by Dr. Meron Benvenisti, of the 160 mosques in the Palestinian villages incorporated into Israel under the armistice agreements, fewer than 40 are still standing. What is unusual about the case of Mash'had Nabi Hussein is that the demolition is documented, and direct responsibility was taken by none other than the GOC Southern Command at the time, an officer named Moshe Dayan. The documentation shows that the holy site was blown up deliberately, as part of a broader operation that included at least two additional mosques, one in Yavneh and the other in Ashdod.

[Zionist Nationalist]

What a stupid comparison

not even worth a reply...

[noir]

The methods of the British Army.

[anarchist23]

What a stupid comparison

not even worth a reply...

Yes. Because it's true. Zionists use the same justifications for their caliphate of Israel as ISIS does for its caliphate. Admit it. lol
We all know that the Zionists use the concentration camps as a smokescreen for their inhumanity against the Palestinians.

[Zionist Nationalist]

LOL caliphate of Israel

Admit that you are just an antisemitic and thats it. its pretty obvious by now.

[noir]

@anarchist23 , you should read British history not oropaganda

Copyright 2001 Newspaper Publishing PLC

The Independent (London)

SOME UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS FOR THE ARABS, THE JEWS AND... THE BRITISH

'What did we not do that Israel does today?'

Andreas Whittam Smith

FIGHTING TERRORISTS by punishing civilians, as Israel is doing on the West Bank of the Jordan, has a long history. I recently came across this incident. It took place in an Arab village, Halhoul, near Hebron.

Halhoul had been identified as a source of terrorist activity. The army was sent in. The villagers were rounded up and put into open-air pens, one for men and one for women. It was May and the sun was fierce. Neither water nor food were provided. In the end, eight people died from heat exhaustion. In explaining away the incident, the authorities said the village was "notoriously bad": 26 rifles and eight revolvers had been found. The eight people had died because of a "combination of unfortunate circumstances... the heat had been abnormally intense and the victims were elderly". Most unfortunate. No one had killed the villagers deliberately. There had been no deed that could be called an "atrocity".

Nobody any longer remembers this because it took place in 1939. However, it concerns us, the British. We then governed Palestine under a mandate from the League of Nations. We were attempting to put down an Arab rebellion. The comments on Halhoul were written by the British High Commissioner, Harold MacMichael.

My account comes from Tom Segev's excellent history of the British Mandate, One Palestine Complete. I shouldn't have been shocked - as I was - when I read it. Occupying powers always get involved in this sort of dirty business. We took to Palestine the harsh methods we had used in Ireland between 1918 and 1922. A Colonial Secretary of the period wrote that the comparison between Ireland and Palestine was "singularly complete". In fact, Mr Segev's book is full of uncomfortable truths for the Arabs and the Jews, as well as for the British.

Until now, the Mandate period, 1922-1948, has seemed a historical curiosity. The British governments of the time didn't really want the responsibility; Palestine served no Imperial purpose. Worse still, it cost money. Suppressing the Arab revolt required 25,000 British troops and police under the command of "Monty", later Field Marshal Montgomery.

Mr Segev's book is over 500 pages long, yet almost every paragraph finds echoes in Israel today. In the same way that the Halhoul deaths in 1939 weren't an atrocity in British minds, nor a violation of civil rights, so the measures that the Israeli army takes to combat Palestinian violence are described as merely self-defence. They are the terrorists; we are the defenders. The killing of 90 or so Palestinian children in the past five months, is, well, self-defence.

In our time, we had the embarrassment that Nazi propaganda was quick to highlight the suffering caused by British policy in Palestine. The British believed that their predecessor as great power in the region, Turkey, had invented the system. Colonial civil servants and army officers reminded themselves that the Turks had frequently arrested entire tribes for unlimited periods and flogged sheikhs and mukhtars.

Those were the days! We were more sophisticated. We erected a security fence along the northern border. We built dozens of police fortresses and concrete guard posts. We imported Dobermann dogs from South Africa. And we trained interrogators in torture. The British police chief in Jerusalem, Douglas Duff, described such methods in his memoir published in 1953. He tells how to apply physical force without leaving marks. We destroyed homes - 2,000 houses between 1936 and 1940 according to one estimate. We engaged in assassination. What did we not do that the Israeli army does today? It is hard to say.

One can trace the inheritance through a single soldier, the brilliant Orde Wingate, posted to Palestine as an intelligence officer in 1936. He became a fervent believer in Zionism. He was once described as a kind of Lawrence of the Jews. He set up Special Night Squads comprising British troops and Jewish volunteers that pursued terrorists by night. Their methods were brutal. Among his men was a future prime minister of Israel, Yitzhak Rabin, and the man who was to be Israel's most famous commander, Moshe Dayan. Churchill later described Wingate as "a man of genius and audacity". An official handbook of the Israeli Ministry of Defence states that the "teaching of Orde Charles Wingate, his character and leadership... and his influence can be seen in the Israel Defense Force's combat doctrine."


I am not saying that this ancient history should still all criticisms. Rather it should remove any notion of moral superiority, a very British fault.

[anarchist23]

LOL caliphate of Israel
Admit that you are just an antisemitic and thats it. its pretty obvious by now.

But when a Zionist is lost for a defence he comes out with the chestnut...ANTISEMITIC.

I will ask you again....
What is the difference between the Zionist Caliphate and the ISIS Caliphate?

[noir]

@anarchist23 , read the real British history

How the British fought terror in Jenin
By Rafael Medoff - April 22, 2002. From: Jerusalem Post

"Demolishing the homes of Arab civilians... Shooting handcuffed prisoners... Forcing local Arabs to test areas where mines may have been planted..."

These sound like the sort of accusations made by British and other European officials concerning Israel's recent actions in Jenin. In fact, they are descriptions from official British documents concerning the methods used by the British authorities to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in Jenin and elsewhere in 1938.

The documents were declassified by London in 1989. They provide details of the British Mandatory government's response to the assassination of a British district commissioner by a Palestinian Arab terrorist in Jenin in the summer of 1938.

Even after the suspected assassin was captured (and then shot dead while allegedly trying to escape), the British authorities decided that "a large portion of the town should be blown up" as punishment. On August 25 of that year, a British convoy brought 4,200 kilos of explosives to Jenin for that purpose.

In the Jenin operation and on other occasions, local Arabs were forced to drive "mine-sweeping taxis" ahead of British vehicles in areas where Palestinian Arab terrorists were believed to have planted mines, in order "to reduce [British] landmine casualties."

The British authorities frequently used these and similar methods to combat Palestinian Arab terrorism in the late 1930s.

BRITISH forces responded to the presence of terrorists in the Arab village of Miar, north of Haifa, by blowing up house after house in October 1938.

"When the troops left, there was little else remaining of the once-busy village except a pile of mangled masonry," The New York Times reported.

The declassified documents refer to an incident in Jaffa in which a handcuffed prisoner was shot by the British police.

Under Emergency Regulation 19b, the British Mandate government could demolish any house located in a village where terrorists resided, even if that particular house had no direct connection to terrorist activity. Mandate official Hugh Foot later recalled: "When we thought that a village was harboring rebels, we'd go there and mark one of the large houses. Then, if an incident was traced to that village, we'd blow up the house we'd marked."

The High Commissioner for Palestine, Harold MacMichael, defended the practice: "The provision is drastic, but the situation has demanded drastic powers."

MacMichael was furious over what he called the "grossly exaggerated accusations" that England's critics were circulating concerning British anti-terror tactics in Palestine. Arab allegations that British soldiers gouged out the eyes of Arab prisoners were quoted prominently in the Nazi German press and elsewhere.

The declassified documents also record discussions among officials of the Colonial Office concerning the rightness or wrongness of the anti-terror methods used in Palestine. Lord Dufferin remarked: "British lives are being lost and I don't think that we, from the security of Whitehall, can protest squeamishly about measures taken by the men in the frontline."

Sir John Shuckburgh defended the tactics on the grounds that the British were confronted "not with a chivalrous opponent playing the game according to the rules, but with gangsters and murderers."

There were many differences between British policy in the 1930s and Israeli policy today, but one stands out - the British, faced with a level of Palestinian Arab terrorism considerably less lethal than that which Israel faces today, utilized anti-terror methods considerably harsher than those used by Israeli forces.

The writer is visiting scholar in the Jewish Studies Program at SUNY-Purchase. His most recent book is Baksheesh Diplomacy: Secret Negotiations Between American Jewish Leaders and Arab Officials on the Eve of World War II (Lexington Books, 2001)

[anarchist23]

I will ask you again....
What is the difference between the Zionist Caliphate and the ISIS Caliphate?

It seems that the Zionists, here on PoFo, can't answer this direct question. lol

[noir]

It seems even British "anarchists" are imperialists who don't want to read the true story of British legacy in ME.

[Oxymoron]

But when a Zionist is lost for a defence he comes out with the chestnut...ANTISEMITIC.

I will ask you again....
What is the difference between the Zionist Caliphate and the ISIS Caliphate?

1.Israel does not want to extend beyond its historical borders, ISIS wants world wide Islam as per Koran instruction.

2. Israel is Secular

3. Israel does not behead captured enemies

4. Israel does not enslave women and children as sex slaves

5. Israel does not blow up archaeological and historical sites, even those of Islam. for crying out loud Israel can easily rebuild the temple mount, and if they were anything like ISIS the Dome of the Rock would be under the rock.

[skinster]

1.Israel does not want to extend beyond its historical borders

I guess you missed the part where Israel is an expansionist state that has illegally occupied internationally-recognized Palestinian territories along with parts of Syria, something it's advancing on more currently while the Syrian govt and army are bogged down with all those foreign fighters who are trying to destabilize that country.

also at you using the word 'historical'. I don't know if anyone ever taught you this, but the first bible is not a historical document and whatever god you believe in or not, wasn't an estate agent.

[Hindsite]

1.Israel does not want to extend beyond its historical borders, ISIS wants world wide Islam as per Koran instruction.

2. Israel is Secular

3. Israel does not behead captured enemies

4. Israel does not enslave women and children as sex slaves

5. Israel does blow up archaeological and historical sites, even those of Islam. for crying out loud Israel can easily rebuild the temple mount, and if they were anything like ISIS the Dome of the Rock would be under the rock.

Surely you meant to write " Israel does NOT blow up archaeological and historical sites, even those of Islam.