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By anarchist23
#14818039
This is a BBC article, released today, which demonstrates racism within Zionist Israel.
Zionist against Zionist.

In the years after the creation of the Israeli state hundreds of babies went missing. Their parents, mostly Jewish immigrants from Yemen, were told their children had died, but suspicions linger that they were secretly given away to childless families - and newly released documents have revealed some disturbing evidence.
When Leah Aharoni remembers losing her baby daughter five decades ago, she bursts into tears.
"I just saw her for a short time. She was pretty with fair skin. She opened her eyes and looked at me, as if she was saying: 'Don't let me go,'" she says.
Leah had given birth to premature twins in a hospital near her home in Kiryat Ekron, in central Israel, but the little girls were sent away to be cared for.
She was told they were being taken to a special clinic in Tel Aviv. But when Leah's husband visited soon afterwards, only one of the twins was there. The other, Hanna, had died, he was informed.
Leah was shocked not to be shown a body or a grave - a common feature of such stories - but she and her husband did not doubt the heart-breaking news.
It was only years later that she began asking questions, when her surviving daughter, Hagit, turned 18 and was called for national military service.
Two draft notices arrived in the post simultaneously. One for Hagit - and one for Hanna. This is another hallmark of missing baby stories.
"It started to bother me. Something was not right. I couldn't sleep at night. I decided I had to know what happened," Leah says.
Leah had experienced many calamities long before the loss of her baby. As a child, she and her family had joined thousands of Jews fleeing violence in Yemen. They were robbed as they trekked from one end of the country to the other and Leah was reduced to begging for food. Then they were rescued in an airlift known as Operation Magic Carpet.
"It was the land I had always dreamed about," the 78-year-old recalls, remembering the flight to Israel.
"When we got off the plane everyone kissed the holy ground.
"Then we heard the bombs and grenades and saw the smoke."
They had arrived, malnourished and penniless, during the first Arab-Israeli war.
Many Yemenite Jews spent periods in transit camps before being settled in homes, and stories of babies going missing began to arise immediately.
Some reports talk of children disappearing after visits to the camps by wealthy American Jews.
In other cases children appeared to be recovering in hospitals from relatively minor ailments when the parents were suddenly told they had died.
On kibbutzes, where some of the Yemenites settled, it was typical for youngsters to be separated from their parents and looked after together, and here too it's said that some children vanished.
Estimates of the number of missing children range from hundreds to thousands.
In many cases the parents believe their children were really kidnapped and given or sold to families of European Jews - occasionally Holocaust survivors who had lost their children - or Americans.
Over time, Leah, like many other parents, ceased to believe in the story of her child's death.
"I went to my father and told him, but he said I should never suspect another Jew stole my child," she says.
She went in search of documents that would reveal the truth about what happened to Hanna, and was deeply disturbed by what she found.
One document she obtained said the babies were moved to Tel Aviv after the date on Hanna's death certificate.
Another was a second death certificate, dated three years later than the first - long after Leah and her husband had been told their daughter had died.
Like Leah, most parents received no information about their child's grave. When they did, in some cases it transpired that the grave was empty, or DNA tests showed that the body was not theirs.
Three government inquiries have looked into the Yemenite Children Affair, as it is known, since the 1960s, and all have concluded that most children died of diseases and were buried without their parents being informed or involved.
But many of the families involved suspect a cover-up and continue to believe that there was an organised operation to snatch children, involving health workers and government officials.
So last year the government of Benjamin Netanyahu decided to open up most of the archives of the public inquiries and put them online.
Netanyahu said this marked a new era of transparency and would "right an historic wrong".
Last week it led to shocking revelations in a Knesset committee about medical experiments on Yemenite children. Testimony given under oath at one of the earlier inquiries revealed that four undernourished babies died after being given an experimental protein injection, and that many children died as a result of medical negligence.
Post-mortem examinations were carried out on children, who were then buried in mass graves in violation of Jewish tradition, the special Knesset committee on the disappearance of children heard. In some cases the children's hearts were removed for US doctors, who were studying why there was almost no heart disease in Yemen.
"It's a big scandal that the doctors didn't tell the parents they were doing experiments and research on their children," says Nurit Koren, the chair of the committee.

"And even worse there are healthy babies who died from an experimental treatment. It's a crime, it was on purpose, and it let to their death."
Koren is herself the child of parents from Yemen. One of her cousins and her mother-in-law's sister were among the children who disappeared. So one of her objectives, on being elected, was to reopen the subject, which she describes as "an open wound in the heart of the Israeli nation".
One of the disturbing aspects of the Yemenite Children Affair is the way the darker-skinned immigrants appear to have been treated as second-class citizens. The founders of Israel were mostly Ashkenazi Jews, of European descent, some of whom expressed fears that Mizrahi (literally "Eastern") Jews brought with them a backwards "Oriental" culture that might damage the new state.
"Zionism - what is it really about?" asks Rafi Shubeli, a Yemenite-Israeli historian and activist from the group Our Brothers Do Exist.
"What were its intentions towards Mediterranean Jews, the Jews of the Islamic world?
"There are very many elements in Israeli society who want to avoid this kind of discussion."
Whether there was an organised conspiracy to snatch Yemenite babies and give them away for adoption remains unproven though, according to historian Tom Segev, who has written books on Israel's early years and served as an expert witness for one government inquiry.
He points out that hundreds of thousands of immigrants arrived in Israel at a time of war, and in the years immediately afterwards, when the country was still reeling.
"All these people came in very, very difficult conditions and it's a story of chaos," Segev says.
Yemenites were housed in tents and had to endure heavy winters. There were child mortality rates of 50%, he points out.
Some children may have been given away, he accepts.
"In some cases this might have happened: one, two, three, four, 10 - I don't know how many," he says.
But in most cases the children just died, he believes.
"It's probably the most tragic story of the return of Jews to Israel."
Working with Nurit Koren, MyHeritage, a company that researches family ancestry, recently began offering help to Yemenite Jews who have a missing child, or who think they were secretly adopted.
Leah Aharoni, who has long been convinced that her daughter, Hanna, could be alive and searching for her biological family, gave a DNA sample - samples of cells from the inside of her cheek - to be checked against others in a new database for Yemenite-Israelis.
"I want to find out where my daughter went. I want her to know that I didn't abandon her, that I love her," Leah says. "I was tricked."
She is encouraged by a few cases in which adults in Israel and abroad found out they had been adopted, and managed to trace their Yemenite parents. She is still waiting to find out if there is a match for her.
At a beachside cafe in Haifa, I meet a physicist who is philosophical about how his life was shaped by this time of turmoil.
"I got hundreds of telephone numbers and lots of information but none quite fitted my story. I tried some DNA tests but it was in vain," Yehuda says.
Yehuda had a happy childhood, raised in nearby Afula by Batia and Asher Kantor, an Ashkenazi Jewish couple originally from Eastern Europe.
Photographs show he had a darker complexion than his relatives and school friends.
However, it was not until he reached his twenties that he discovered what much of his close-knit community already knew: he was adopted.
His mother, who had been unable to conceive, revealed she had brought him home from a small orphanage, aged three.
She always feared losing him and so, out of respect for his adoptive parents, it was only after they died that Yehuda opened his adoption file.
This showed no signature of consent from his Yemenite biological mother and gave only her first name, Zahara.
MyHeritage was able to use that to trace a grave for a woman who had died 17 years ago.
They then approached her five children asking them to do DNA tests. These showed they are the half-brother and half-sisters of Yehuda.
"Wow, there are a lot," remarked Yehuda, as he was told the news ahead of an emotional first meeting filmed by Israeli television.
His biological siblings had never been told of the existence of an older brother and were unable to explain the circumstances of his adoption.
However, they were able to give some information on his roots and Yehuda is delighted to be getting to know them better.
"I'm happy the circle was completed and I now know the history, the origin and I know which family [I'm from] from a genetic point of view," he says.
"You cannot regret what happened in the past. This is my life. I accept it as it is."
#14818173
Zionist Nationalist wrote:lol you are talking about something that happened 60 years ago


This info has only recently been exposed. Instead of getting typy-happy immediately when something triggers you, you can try reading at least the first line or two from articles, so you don't have to constantly have things explained to you as though you're mildly retarded. :)
By Oxymandias
#14818195
@Zionist Nationalist

Sources? I find it strange that the official government of Israel would admit it a long time ago. If they did, support of Israel would be lower than it is, Anti-Israel Campaigners would be the first to use and would constantly use it to prove Israel is Nazi Germany, and Israel would have a much more lower human rights rating. Not only that, but America would be even more wary of allying itself with Israel and many of Israel's previous rulebreaking and aggression with the US would be brought to light. Pretty much if this information was out Israel would be nearly unsupportable both then and now.
By skinster
#14818199
The Zionist Nationalist will as usual not provide any sources for his position, but if he can't accuse a story of being fake, will dismiss it (as can be seen above).
#14818222
Oxymandias wrote:@Zionist Nationalist

Sources? I find it strange that the official government of Israel would admit it a long time ago. If they did, support of Israel would be lower than it is, Anti-Israel Campaigners would be the first to use and would constantly use it to prove Israel is Nazi Germany, and Israel would have a much more lower human rights rating. Not only that, but America would be even more wary of allying itself with Israel and many of Israel's previous rulebreaking and aggression with the US would be brought to light. Pretty much if this information was out Israel would be nearly unsupportable both then and now.


I didnt said it was admitted long time ago

the government not really admitted it but only showed the conclusions of the investigation that took place over the years

The US did worse things to the blacks before the civil rights movement so what
seriously try to look at yourself sometimes
#14818226
@Zionist Nationalist

Then why use the word "knew"?

So the government didn't admit it? So you're lying? Also again sources. You didn't give me sources.

And please tell me again why is it that if this was admitted why isn't support for Israel lower than it is now? Why don't all Anti-Israel Campaigners know about this fact? Why isn't Israel's human right's rating lower than it is now? You never explain any of this, you just assume everyone will believe you because you're from Israel well then I want proof right now. Showtime's over, now it's time for a real and adult debate.

You either provide a source or your argument is false and invalid. That's all there is to it. In other words, no source = wrong.

I also want you to note that I am saving your posts and copying your words onto a text document as we are speaking so I can use your words against you during this debate and in the future to make sure no one listens to you.
#14818227
I thought the government admitted it but apparently not
but again its really a non issue and nobody that I know care about this

Why isn't Israel's human right's rating lower than it is now?


because you dont have a human rights rating based on things that happened in the past
maybe we should rate the US based on things that happened 60 years ago? Im sure the human rights rating will be much lower

spinster and anarchist think or maybe want others to think that is some type of racism towards mizrahi Jews but thats not the case that issue belong to the past today everybody are mixing
By Oxymandias
#14818228
@Zionist Nationalist

And that makes it better how? Or are you assuming that I'm a dirty fascist like you are? And stop editing your posts. I'm now going to take a screenshot of your post just in case you edit your post again. Editing posts now, what a dirty dirty trick. Only the truly desperate would do something like that, you must really not believe that Israel is legitimate. All these posts finally rearing their ugly head at you eh?

Also I'm Iranian so I don't give a flying fuck about what the US did as long as it doesn't effect me.
#14818229
I'm now going to take a screenshot of your post just in case you edit your post again


Ok mr.Policeman :lol:

Editing posts now, what a dirty dirty trick. Only the truly desperate would do something like that, you must really not believe that Israel is legitimate. All these posts finally rearing their ugly head at you eh?


I edit to add things I dont delete anything

also I do believe that Israel is legitimate and its much more legitimate than all those fake states in the middle east like Syria Lebanon and Jordan
By Oxymandias
#14818233
@Zionist Nationalist

So you lied? Now I'm going to take a screenshot of your posts before I post this and done. Also didn't you say EVERYONE knew this? And now you're backtracking?

But human rights ratings existed during that time period as well through the League of Nations and the United Nations.

That last sentence is incoherent as fuck. Also I agree it does belong in the past however that isn't an excuse for you to bring stuff from the past as well which you often do to discredit pretty much anyone that opposes Israel.

There was no reason for you to add that at all other then wanting to make it seem that I was avoiding your points.

Who are you to say what is legitimate and what is a "fake state"? If Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan are all fake states then please, give me reasons why and a citation is also needed.
#14818234
I didnt lied I was mistaken its not an issue that I very much informed about


Who are you to say what is legitimate and what is a "fake state"? If Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan are all fake states then please, give me reasons why and a citation is also needed.


They are fake state because they dont have an identity thats why you have sectarian conflicts and civil wars
and Jordan was established by the British if not them than Jordan would have been part of Saudi Arabia
By Oxymandias
#14818236
@Zionist Nationalist

Then why are you talking about? Why not just shut up and let people get on with their lives? Why did you feel compelled to make a statement you yourself aren't sure about?

So apparently Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan don't have an identity? There is more to a country other than ethnic identity such as cultural. Syrian, Lebanon, and Jordan all have a common culture. Most sectarian conflicts and civil wars are due to politics and socio-economic situations, not your vague, abstract, simplistic idea of "identity".

And if it were not for the US, Israel would've never existed or at least wouldn't be as powerful as it is now. Also let's not forget how the US and Britain also remade the borders of Germany and Japan. Do they not have an identity? Obviously they do but I think a better question would be "Are you stupid enough to say they don't have a culture or identity"?
By skinster
#14818238
Zionist Nationalist wrote:This is something everybody knew about and was officially admitted by the goverment


Zionist Nationalist wrote:I didnt said it was admitted long time ago


Zionist Nationalist wrote:I thought the government admitted it but apparently not
but again its really a non issue and nobody that I know care about this


:D
#14818241
I find it funny that anarchist and spinster want everyone to think that Israel is some kind of a racist fascist state where there is a supermacy of the ashkenazis above the mizrahis and above everyone else
when infact thats not the case at all Israel is actually much more multicultural than western liberal European countries

Many Arabs themselves claim that they want a single arab state and the states that were created by sykes picot agreement are fake
they dont have a real basis other than division of the middle east so that Arabs wont be united (its true)

same thing with Russia and Ukraine. creation of a fake state called Ukraine is also a method of divide and conquer
By Oxymandias
#14818243
@Zionist Nationalist

Sources? Proof? If not your argument is to be thrown in the trash where it belongs. Nationalist fervor isn't evidence.

If you are the result of this so-called multi-cultural Israel then I have very low expectations of your definition of "multi-culturalism"

"Many". Dude, Pan-Arabism is dead. No one gives a flying fuck about it. Do you not know anything about Arab culture and society? Of course you don't, all you need to know is that Arabs are "BARABABABABABABAABABARIIANS WHO ARE EVVVVVVVIIIIIIIL!!!! But I'm totally multi-cultural tho" since that fits your political beliefs well. If political beliefs refrain you from treating others like human beings then you need to re-evaluate your life.

You didn't give me a reason why the states are fake at all and saying that they are fake and that it's true doesn't change anything. I want cold, solid evidence that the Arab states are fake. If not then your argument is in the trash again. In fact it was already in the trash, you just decided to burn it.
#14818245
Proof for what? do you have mental issues? from your posts I can definitely tell that there is something wrong with you

I live here I dont care what you think. but you are obviously clueless.

have you ever been in the middle east?

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