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The issue of gay marriage rights have been international headline news in the west, particularly in the US, when the issue came to a vote for France, Germany, Ireland, Canada, Brazil, Uganda, United States, and elsewhere.

Somehow the rest of the world shrugs it's shoulders and the media is not interested in reporting let alone criticizing Israel. Weird :hmm:

Supreme Court: Same-sex marriage is not a right

Supreme Court Justices Elyakim Rubinstein, Neal Handel, and Anat Baron on Thursday morning unanimously rejected the Israeli Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Association's demand that the Jewish state recognize same-sex marriages.

According to the Association, the Basic Law of Human Dignity and Liberty should be interpreted to allow same-sex marriage. At the very least, the petitioners claimed, the law not allowing same-sex marriage should not be constitutional.

"To all intents and purposes, Israeli civil law does not recognize same-sex marriage," the court said. "Therefore, the petitioners' request to have the civil court rule on something under the jurisdiction of the rabbinical courts, which applies under certain conditions, is not applicable here. Instead, request is based on establishing as an essential precondition that marriage between two individuals of the same gender exists in Israeli law, and it does not," Rubenstein wrote in his ruling.

"In essence, the petitioners are asking the court to recognize same-sex marriage via court ruling, despite the fact that Israeli law does not recognize it. Regarding the possibility of recognizing marriages which are not performed under religious auspices, including same-sex marriage, there already is a ruling that such recognition is the purview of the legislative body." In Israel, in a law unchanged since the days of the British Mandate, there is no civil marriage and all marriages are performed under Jewish, Christian or Muslim auspices.
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Usually because a high ranking judge said so, after a gay or lesbian couple takes the government to court about it.

In most places, such as those where non-religious marriage is allowed, there exists some sort of bill of rights that clearly states that all people should be treated equally under the law. The judge then decides that same sex marriage is a right based on the idea that same sex couples should have the same rights as hetero couples.
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maz wrote:So the question is where is the EU, the UN and the US State Department? You'd think that this issue would put aid to Israel in jeopardy.


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Quite a number of countries still have the death penalty or long-term imprisonment to punish same-sex activities. Many of those countries receive aid money and advantageous trade agreements.
In Israel homosexuality is not a criminal activity at all.
I think your question about halting aid to Israel for that reason is just wishful thinking on your part.
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Now come on @maz you can't judge the chosen people on the same basis as the rest of us. If they want a Jewish state for a Jewish people, if they want to build a wall, if they want to attack a US warship, surely they are entitled?
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Ter wrote:Very true, and they killed sweet Jezus, your Messiah.

Jesus is not my Messiah and the Jews didn't kill him as he never actually existed as a real person. Jesus began his mythological existence as a heavenly being whose sacrifice took place in the heavens. The Gospel biographies were created later. Jesus was revealed to the earliest (proto) Christians through reading the Jewish scriptures. These revelations are misrepresented and mistranslated as appearances. But even if Jesus had been a real historical person and some Jews were responsible for his death, so what? Unjust killing was hardly rare during that era.
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