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This is an article about how housing prices in Australia have reached high levels, and many people cannot find housing.

They say that the "Australian Dream" is over.


The year the Australian Dream died, by Tiffanie Turnbull, BBC News, Sydney, December 28, 2023
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67723760


The usual wacky Left continues to blame capitalism and the free market, but very little talk over how the nation's population has increased 51% over the last 30 years - that population growth entirely fueled by immigration.
But that couldn't possibly have anything to do with the housing shortages and competition bidding up prices sky high, could it.

While it may be true Australia has a large land area, about 65% of Australia's total population resides within 70 km of just four major cities, and over 86% of Australia's population lives in urban areas.


From the article:

At the age of 31, Justin Dowswell never imagined he'd be living in a shared room in his childhood home.
He had a full-time, well-paying job in Sydney, and had rented for a decade before an unprecedented housing crisis forced him to upend his life and move back in with his parents, two hours away.
"It's humbling," he says. But the alternative was homelessness: 'So I'm one of the lucky ones'.

For generations, owning a house on a modest block of land has been idealised as both the ultimate marker of success and a gateway to a better life.
It's an aspiration that has wormed its way into the country's identity, helping to shape modern Australia.
But for current generations the dreams proffered to their parents and grandparents are out of reach.

After decades of government policies that treat housing as an investment not a right, many say they would be lucky to even find a stable, affordable place to rent.

"The Australian Dream… it's a big lie," Mr Dowswell says.

The average property now costs about nine times an ordinary household's income, triple what it was 25 years ago.

It's particularly dire for the three quarters of Australians who live in major cities. Sydney, for example, is the second least affordable city on Earth to buy a property, trailing only Hong Kong, according to the 2023 Demographia International Housing Affordability survey.

Australia has made home ownership virtually unattainable for almost anyone without family wealth. Last month the boss of a major bank, ANZ, said home loans had become home loans had become "the preserve of the rich".

Chelsea Hickman, a 28-year-old fashion designer, always imagined she'd become both a homeowner and a mother, but now worries that may be impossible.
"Financially, how could I ever afford both? The numbers just do not add up," she says.
She tells the BBC from her Melbourne shared house that despite working full-time for almost a decade, she can't even afford to rent an apartment by herself. Her friends are in a similar boat.

Tarek Bieganski, a 26-year-old IT manager, laughs when asked if he thinks he'll ever own property.

"It's just so obviously out of reach that it's not really even a thought anymore," he says. "And this is coming from someone that, really, has got it pretty good."

But with interest rates rising faster than at any time in Australia's history, even many of those who have scraped their way on to the property ladder now live in fear of falling off it.

The level of home ownership across the nation - while significantly dropping for young people - has overall stayed around two-thirds.
And those Australians are quite content to see house prices climb and their wealth grow.

Vacancies are at unprecedented, prolonged lows. And, with the greater demand, rents are skyrocketing.
The crisis is tipping people into homelessness or overcrowded living conditions.

Social or subsidised housing - once a safety net for those on low or moderate incomes - is not an option for most Australians either. The number of homes available is less than half of what is needed to meet immediate demand and wait lists are years long.

Melbourne woman Hayley Van Ree told us her rental prospects were so bleak that her mother raided her own retirement fund to buy an apartment and is now Ms Van Ree's landlord - eliciting what she describes as a confusing mix of relief, embarrassment and guilt.
"Friends who have parents who are in property have this kind of morbid knowledge that when their parents die, they might be ok," Ms Van Ree says. "I hate that it's my reality."

The government announced earlier this month that it would halve Australia's immigration intake and triple the fees for foreign homebuyers, both things they argue should help ease the strain.
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Chinese investors and wealthy Chinese buying up second homes is also a big factor, to be sure, but that's mostly only in Sydney and Melbourne.

And this is ultimately the result of a long term trade deficit Australia has had over the last 25 years.
All that money Australia was sending to China to buy consumer goods, what did you think the Chinese were eventually going to do with it?

If we could go back in time 25 years, most people seemed to be saying "trade deficits don't matter", too stupid to foresee what would happen.

Already over 14% of Australia's agricultural land is foreign-owned.
More than 5% of the capital in Australia's mines are Chinese owned. Perhaps higher than that because Chinese investment companies own shares in mining companies indirectly or secretly.
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Puffer Fish wrote:Chinese investors and wealthy Chinese buying up second homes is also a big factor, to be sure, but that's mostly only in Sydney and Melbourne.

And this is ultimately the result of a long term trade deficit Australia has had over the last 25 years.
All that money Australia was sending to China to buy consumer goods, what did you think the Chinese were eventually going to do with it?

If we could go back in time 25 years, most people seemed to be saying "trade deficits don't matter", too stupid to foresee what would happen.

Already over 14% of Australia's agricultural land is foreign-owned.
More than 5% of the capital in Australia's mines are Chinese owned. Perhaps higher than that because Chinese investment companies own shares in mining companies indirectly or secretly.

AUSTRALIA FOR THE AUSTRALIANS!!

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Potemkin wrote:AUSTRALIA FOR THE AUSTRALIANS!!

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That gave me a chuckle.
Here‘s a good one.


But the housing cost issue is definitely an issue of market forces because property developers and such have financial incentives to increase supply only as much gives the most bang for buck, drip feeding like Telstra does for internet download speeds.

Also the quality is messed up where got lots of didgey buildings like in NSW where depending on what year it is built can be a proxy fkr whether you should expect integrity problems because the market incentivizes efficient production of quality and they get approved by dudes who don’t know a lick about construction and it’s mot been clamped down on.

A lot of efforts to head off the problem years ago in public housing and other initiatives fell by the wayside under the long run with the LNP and the labor party is too pussy to do what they want due to character assassination of Murdoch media so they end up trying to tie the line in an anxious manner rather than doing like premier of Vic Dan Andrews did and said fuck populism I’ll do what I think is right to hell with opinion and get good shit going. In the end his competence meant the media couldn’t put a dent on his good policies (amidst some questionable ones).

Foreign investment is itself a market force as Australian government is often all to willing to open lanes to foreign capital with less barriers in many areas. We sell domestic products directly to the global market even where it would be prudent to sell cheaper domestically first then globally. And it is exactly capitalism that has Chinese investors use housing as a monetary investment over and above housing as being based primarily in use value, a home to be lived in.

There is a lit that needs to be tackled that isn’t limited to the Chinese which other property investors take advantage off. Much of things in Australia is a bloody rort with the appearance of being civil.
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Wellsy wrote:Foreign investment is itself a market force as Australian government is often all to willing to open lanes to foreign capital with less barriers in many areas. We sell domestic products directly to the global market even where it would be prudent to sell cheaper domestically first then globally.

That's not really true so much.
Isn't it true that most of the exports from Australia to China are natural resources, coal and mining ore, along with some agricultural food products?

I don't think China likes to run a trade deficit with other countries, having to keep paying money to get resources, so what it seems they are doing is buying up the mines and farms. Starting already and in the future this will mean China will be able to keep up Australian imports without having a trade deficit.

Wellsy wrote:And it is exactly capitalism that has Chinese investors use housing as a monetary investment over and above housing as being based primarily in use value, a home to be lived in.

The Chinese can "own" housing indirectly, or at least own equity in the housing market.
This happens whenever Chinese money is put into Australian banks. In terms of economics, it's almost equivalent to buying housing. (The interest payments come from borrower-homebuyers making payments on their mortgage)

There's a New York Times article you can read titled "Beijing buys into leading Australian banks"
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