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By Dr House
#1880465
Because I don't support a guaranteed minimum income more expensive than the entire Swedish government? :roll:
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By NYYS
#1880901
Excellent, I'm glad to see the SLD will supporting a moderate position for the good of Onnela.
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By Vanasalus
#1880914
Does this brown coalition have the vote of confidence?

I doubt.
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By NYYS
#1880921
If you don't support this coalition the terrorists win.
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By Dave
#1880923
The "brown" party is not part of this coalition in the first place, and in the second place this coalition represents a majority.
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By Vanasalus
#1880936
The "brown" party is not part of this coalition in the first place,


You might need to check yourself in the mirror.

and in the second place this coalition represents a majority.


Since you say so?

We will see.
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By Dave
#1880940
Vanasalus wrote:You might need to check yourself in the mirror.

Three possibilities

A) You're trolling
B) You don't know what fascism is
C) You are unfamiliar with my views

Vanasalus wrote:Since you say so?

We will see.

It has a majority of seats in parliament. 52/100 seats, I believe.
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By Vanasalus
#1880943
It has a majority of seats in parliament. 52/100 seats, I believe.


I am not interested in what you might believe. I am interested in seeing 51 support votes for this coalition. ;)
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By Dave
#1880947
I just double-checked, and it is 52/100 seats. Not sure what you're talking about regarding support votes.
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By Vanasalus
#1880961
I just double-checked, and it is 52/100 seats. Not sure what you're talking about regarding support votes.


This is a parliamentary democracy.

I believe what those 4 parties agreed so far is to form a coalition government.

Now, you have to prepare a cabinet list and then come before the parliament for vote of confidence for that cabinet.
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By Dave
#1880974
Presumably the majority coalition will vote for itself...
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By ingliz
#1880975
I presume not, I expect you wil fall short of a majority by maybe 4 votes and have to rely on the fascists for support. :)
Last edited by ingliz on 21 Apr 2009 20:58, edited 1 time in total.
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By Dave
#1880976
Some tactical voting from the other parties should make up the difference. The PNL doesn't even allow freedom of conscience in voting, and I don't imagine the CA or PUC will have defectors. The SLD will lose...Gnote? Who else?
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By Vanasalus
#1880982
How many of your members are red carded right now?

Anyway. Let's wait and see. But first: let's see the cabinet list.

By the way, where is PUC in these negotiations? They look pretty absent to me.

Some tactical voting from the other parties should make up the difference.


Does it mean this coalition is considering to add PoP into coalition?

The PNL doesn't even allow freedom of conscience in voting,


Then, why me calling you as brown hurts you?
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By Dave
#1880988
Vanasalus wrote:How many of your members currently are red carded right now?

None, and that would be irrelevant anyway.

Vanasalus wrote:Anyway. Lets wait and see. But first, lets see the cabinet list.

By the way, where is PUC in these negotiations? They look pretty absent to me.

Nets is AWOL so negotiations cannot proceed.

Vanasalus wrote:Does it mean this coalition is considering to add PoP into coalition?

No, but we would hope that they'd vote to seat the government.

Vanasalus wrote:Then, why me calling you as brown hurts you?

We don't operate on the fuehrer prinzip. Instead, we reach decisions by internal consensus. I can be replaced at any time, and in fact have offered to step down if my leadership would threaten the health of this party. We choose not to allow freedom of conscience voting because it would weaken us in parliament. Like all of our other policies we adopted that due to internal consensus.

Provacateurs from the left have attempted to smear us (and the CA) as fascist in an attempt to prevent a government from being formed or seated.
Last edited by Dave on 21 Apr 2009 21:11, edited 1 time in total.
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By ingliz
#1880991
Nets is AWOL so negotiations cannot proceed.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By NYYS
#1880999
The CA votes as a group as well, so there will be no defectors from us.
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By Gnote
#1881083
Paradigm wrote:It appears that Gnote is a minority voice within the party, and that the will of the majority is to go ahead with this.

Are we reading tea leaves now?

The last I saw, the majority of SLD voters haven't even voiced an opinion on the coalition.

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