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By Dave
#1885114
I blame foreigners.

Hyphenated Pofoese have poured the poison of disloyalty into the very arteries of our national life. Such creatures of passion, disloyalty and anarchy must be crushed out.

Vote PNL!
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By albionfagan
#1885116
Dr House wrote:Why would anarchist parties be available for voting in the first place? It defeats the point of anarchism.


It's a game. I think people are forgetting this at times.
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By Oxymoron
#1885118
Life is but an Act every one has their entrances and exits and each man plays many roles in his own time
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By Vladimir
#1885120
Dave
Our purpose is the advance of political and economic advance of the working class within the framework of capitalism through legal means. We have called ourselves the "legal wing" of the workers' movement because we are responsible for the legal advance and increased power of the workers in capitalism. This is, from a marxist perspective, a policy of progressing capitalism, just as feudalism once progressed by incorporating capitalist representation in its political life – protoparliaments, trade leagues, land enclosures, etc - which all were prerequisites for bourgeois revolutions and nation-state formations
Anarchists are generally on the same page as us on this
Last edited by Vladimir on 25 Apr 2009 01:29, edited 4 times in total.
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By Dr House
#1885121
albionfagan wrote:It's a game.

That's sort of my point. If we were just gonna go with the party ruling the forum or w/e the question would not matter, but as part of the game we're designing a fictional nation around this party. And it makes no sense for real people to vote for an Anarchist party.
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By Vladimir
#1885139
I blame foreigners.



Meanwhile, thousands of boats full of African immigrants are heading from Europe towards Pofoland, as it is their chance to get in.

what you gonna do Dave :eek:
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By Dave
#1885144
Board the ships with marines, sail them back to Africa, duh.
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By Vladimir
#1885146
That's if your government regains control and actually ends the political crisis... tick tick we'll be flooded with migrants in no time :lol:
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By Dave
#1885148
You just made this scenario up though, no one accepts this scenario.

Additionally Bifrost's armed forces have not been reintegrated into Poforike's yet, so find the necessary forces is not an issue. ;)
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By Vladimir
#1885152
You just made this scenario up though, no one accepts this scenario.

That's an exaggeration fist of all, and secondly I think having this as a consequence, a "penalty" of sorts for the political crisis is pretty reasonable. The nation being a silent backdrop is pretty 1)unrealistic 2)boring
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By Dave
#1885156
You're basically talking about a socialist revolution breaking out...what are we supposed to do with that? End the parliament game and give you a proletarian dictatorship game? :eh:
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By Vladimir
#1885169
Indeed :muha1:

Actually no, extrapolating on the Weimar comparison, a powerful but disorganised uprising with some strong organisation in certain localities, as well as possible brief communes, a la the Bavarian council republic or Paris commune is only an episode responsive to the situation... not a socialist revolution
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By Dave
#1885170
No, we shouldn't have a Weimar game. In Weimar Germany, controlling the streets was as important as winning elections. The country was full of private armies. And while that would be a fun game, how would we simulate it? I am interested in creating some kind of war game which would be built on top of the parliamentary simulation, but FIRST we need to get the parliamentary game running smoothly so that we all know what's going on AND enjoy it. Then I will have to spend a long time designing the war game as well...

I think maybe such an event in one city could be interesting from a political POV and could be handled within the existing parliament simulation, but let's not get ahead of ourselves either.
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By Vladimir
#1885174
Okay let's just say that while the parliament remains stalled, unrest is growing along the lines I described. Maybe we can have a commune is some city too?
Last edited by Vladimir on 25 Apr 2009 01:57, edited 1 time in total.
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By Demosthenes
#1885175
Dave wrote:some kind of war game


*Ears perk up*

Eh?
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By Dave
#1885183
Vladimir wrote:Okay let's just say that while the parliament remains stalled, unrest is growing along the lines I described. Maybe we can have a commune is some city too?

It should be at a lower level than that, and it should be more conventional unrest. Protests, demonstrations, etc.

Demosthenes wrote:
*Ears perk up*

Eh?

I mentioned to Vladimir last week that we could design a war game based on our fictional nation which would allow the paramilitary battles some members seem to want to be able to take place. This could even be a separate game. I think first we need to establish our parliament game and really flesh out everything about the nation, though. And designing the war game will take some work.
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By Oxymoron
#1885192
I say lets play chess! I will represent the PNL unless someone else wants to do it.
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By Demosthenes
#1885195
Dave wrote:I mentioned to Vladimir last week that we could design a war game based on our fictional nation which would allow the paramilitary battles some members seem to want to be able to take place. This could even be a separate game. I think first we need to establish our parliament game and really flesh out everything about the nation, though. And designing the war game will take some work.


Interesting. I may be of some assistance here as I have an extensive wargaming background. (Note- not D & D).
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By Dave
#1885199
Paradigm wrote:As my first act as Prime Minister, I am officially ordering the troops to put down this uprising and restore order. The ringleaders will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

As your defense minister, I have to advise your that the military is in sorry shape. The previous regime neglected and mismanaged the armed forces. I advise the use of militia and paramilitaries from Bifrost for the purpose, and perhaps the hiring of mercenaries from overseas.

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