QatzelOk wrote:People who "make decisions" that "cause factories to exist" are called magicians.
No they aren't. When they
implement those decisions -- the part of the production process that you "forgot" I specified -- they are called entrepreneurs, producers and employers. Here is my full sentence, which you so disingenuously edited to remove the crucial context:
"It ONLY exists because some particular person or persons made the decision to cause it to exist,
and implemented that decision by their own initiative and labor of arranging for the relevant production factors to be applied to its creation."For mortals, it takes labor which can only be provided by the workers.
The "workers" in the sense of wage laborers? No. Your claims are just objectively false. All labor, from flipping burgers to running an international corporation, consists of three steps: obtaining information, making a decision, and implementing the decision. Because he carries out those three steps, the entrepreneur/producer/employer
is most certainly a worker. He just doesn't work for wages from an employer.
In the Soviet Union, lots of factories were built without any magicians *conjuring them out of thoughts alone.*
And in every other modern country. You are aware of the fact that I never said or implied that the entrepreneur/producer/employer conjures factories out of thought alone. I have stated repeatedly that
implementing the decision to produce a product is a necessary part of the production process that causes the product to exist. You are just disingenuously pretending not to know the fact that I have repeatedly said so because you are a Marxist, and that is what Marxists always do.
"For my next act, I will pull a factory out of my hat."
As usual, you are just makin' $#!+ up and falsely and disingenuously attributing it to me because you know you have no actual facts or logic to offer, and that all actual objective facts prove your beliefs are objectively false and evil.
It is preferable to quote the part of a text that you wish to criticize, rather than quoting en entire post, sentence by sentence, with a crit of each sentence.
No it isn't. It is far better, clearer, and more
honest to quote each specific false premise directly, verbatim, and in context -- you know: the way you don't -- and prove it false individually. That way it is clear where the disagreements are. You just hate clarity because you are a Marxist, and all Marxists hate clarity because clarity always shows why their beliefs are false and evil.
IDEAS are what is important to discuss, and not individual sentences.
What are you using your individual sentences for, if not to express your ideas?
Oh, wait a minute, that's right: like all Marxists, you are using them to create a miasma of anti-concepts, appeals to emotion, gaslighting, disinformation and propaganda in order to prevent yourself from knowing any of the facts that prove your beliefs are false and evil.
The style "sentence by sentence debunking" is a chore to read,
It's much more of a chore to write, believe me. But it is important not to permit ANY false premise into an argument. The fact that I debunk your posts sentence by sentence only shows how many of your sentences are false and need debunking. See your first sentence, above, for the proof that in responding to your fallacious and disingenuous Marxist filth, honesty and clarity require sentence-by-sentence demolition.
and ends up being full of useless filler that bores the hell out of anyone trying to follow the discussion.
You mean that it does not allow you to get away with all the bald falsehoods and disingenuous propaganda you were counting on getting away with, like your claim about magicians, above, and your despicable editing of my sentence to change its meaning.
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