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@Thomasmariel

Now Thomas you know that's a loaded question. The reason why no one asks this question is because it's very very controversial in modern day political thought.

The notion of whom absence really is by itself is quite debatable. For example, is the each of the three absences used here in this question the same entity or different ones with different definitions? And if they are different entities which entities are they? If they are the same entities, is the question referring to the consciousness of absence itself? Through Object Oriented Philosophy we are capable of not just applying a certain level of consciousness to objects but concepts as well therefore it is possible to apply this level of consciousness to absence.

But then we must ask, is this really the nature of consciousness that absence contains? Is this question really feasible given the lack of information we have of the concept of absence. Absence is an idea and therefore we are unable to apply any form of absence but of our own. In my opinion there are different levels of absence as a concept. Absence to be found within an individual, absence within a group, absence with in a crowd, and absence within a population. Each have different properties which fit between each level and there are several of the same levels with different properties of absence as well.

Ergo, this question must be rephrased as it is too vague. Which level of absence are you referring to? Are the three entities exhibited within the question the same or different? Is the founding philosophy of your question Object-Oriented or Networkologistic or something else entirely? Does your question consider Dark Vitalism? All these questions contribute to the controversy surrounding it.
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Oxymandias wrote:@Thomasmariel

Now Thomas you know that's a loaded question. The reason why no one asks this question is because it's very very controversial in modern day political thought.

The notion of whom absence really is by itself is quite debatable. For example, is the each of the three absences used here in this question the same entity or different ones with different definitions? And if they are different entities which entities are they? If they are the same entities, is the question referring to the consciousness of absence itself? Through Object Oriented Philosophy we are capable of not just applying a certain level of consciousness to objects but concepts as well therefore it is possible to apply this level of consciousness to absence.

But then we must ask, is this really the nature of consciousness that absence contains? Is this question really feasible given the lack of information we have of the concept of absence. Absence is an idea and therefore we are unable to apply any form of absence but of our own. In my opinion there are different levels of absence as a concept. Absence to be found within an individual, absence within a group, absence with in a crowd, and absence within a population. Each have different properties which fit between each level and there are several of the same levels with different properties of absence as well.

Ergo, this question must be rephrased as it is too vague. Which level of absence are you referring to? Are the three entities exhibited within the question the same or different? Is the founding philosophy of your question Object-Oriented or Networkologistic or something else entirely? Does your question consider Dark Vitalism? All these questions contribute to the controversy surrounding it.



The absence I mean is the one that has no elsewhere
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@Thomasmariel

That itself is also too vague. Each concept has a different form in each individual person's consciousness. If two or more consciousnesses think about the same concept (often communicated through abstract or vague structures such as language or visual mediums) a new concept will arise out of the similarities between each of those consciousnesses mental illustration of the two individual concepts. This is done through the simple act of two or more people communicating to one another about the concept creating a sort of shared understanding. That shared understanding is this new level of concept.

As of right now you have an individual thought and I have an interpretation of that individual thought. These two thoughts are beings of their own that each have their own consciousness. They may be different, incomprehensible consciousnesses but they are consciousnesses nonetheless. In order to produce a new, higher-order thought we must clarify and discuss with the limited amount of tools we have.
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