People are seem to be accusing of half the Allies of merely doing the rambo role in southern Afghanistan and letting the Afghani's sort out the mess while the Europeans in the north are all smiles with their reconstruction and peacekeeping.
The southern forces conduct a combination of reconstruction and counter-insurgent combat. Unlike the Germans and other Europeans, we do not have the luxury of a relatively calm region. Often it is the case that once our boys help build a school for girls, it is fire bombed within weeks. Thus, the need to fight. Such a need is not abundantly necessary for the Germans.
The problem with Afghanistan isn't just the Euros or Americans, no, it is all about applying different strategies. Some Euros (Germany, France, Italy and few more) focus on gaining trust, strengthening the government and building up the police force. Other Euros (UK & Co) and the US are trying to destroy all "resistance", stopping crime and drug trade.
You CANNOT have reconstruction without the counter-insurgency campagin. Likewise, you CANNOT have the counter insurgency campagin without reconstruction. Both roles need to be standard accross all Alliance nations.Soron wrote:
Why, THANKS. And doing just this we keep the peace for 40% of the Afghan population.
A region already pacified. Mainly by the Northern Alliance faction and other friendly warlords. Spidermonkey wrote:
How is refusing to clear up Americas mess cowardice?
Its not refusing the Americans - Its refusing your Allies, your friends. Its not just the Americans in this. The invocation of article 5 put the onus on all NATO allies to come to the aid of eachother - where they have to fight at all times of day and perhaps fire their weapons.
NATO should be disbanded, given the Russians are unlikely to mount an armour offensive in Europe these days.
A poor reason. Simply because Russia is no longer ideologically opposed to the west does not mean it is not capable of agression - particularly to its former satalite states. Moreover, to abandon an alliance between the most powerful western nations in the world is simply a waste of military co-operation which quite enhances world stability. Indeed, the disbanding of NATO would open the door for increased transaltlantic rivalry. Dumbteen wrote:
This is not our war, this is your war, you made it up.
False. Article 5 made OUR war. All NATO members pledged their support. To renege on such a duty is at best convienant forgetfullness.
with America's latest foreign policy fad.
Since when is Afghanistan the 'latest' fad? Afghanistan has been going on for sometime. NATO has been their for sometime quite willingly. The UN has been their for sometime as well. Afghanistan may have started effectually unilaterally but it is certainly not the case for the last 3 years. German Defence offical wrote:
The enemy can only be beaten if the hearts and minds of the people are won first, says Jung.
True. But occasionally you may have to fire your weapon in anger to win this war.