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The degree at which this particular foetus would function (mentally, of course, since humans are unique by reason of their mental makeup) is zero, since it doesn't have a functioning brain. Again, there is nothing subjective about valuing mind over mindlesness; following your logic a brain-dead person is just as much a human being as you and I.
A brain-dead person, is just as much a human being as you and I. You followed my logic correctly. A brain-dead human being, is a brain-dead human bieng.
Just as a properly dead human being is a dead human being.
My position on this is the following. The fetus is alive, it will die soon after being born. It does not have a functioning brain, but the development of such a brain, is merely one stage in the development of a human being. There are other stages.
The fetus will be born and then it will die. That is the full extent of it's life. Why not just let it live what life it has and then let the inevitable take it's toll?
It has a life, beacause it grew from a cluster of STEM cells to a ablait terribly incomplete human baby form. That life is that of a human being, which has given us no reasonable justification for ending it. Thus that life should be respected.
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My oh my this SoC character would fight to death for this "pro-life" position; but what is it based off of?
It is really curious what SoC's prime objectives are; should this girl die what would you say then?
And why would the girl die?
What is my pro-life position based off? An actual realisation of the objective nature of abortion, that it is murder and this is a fact. To deny this, is not merely to disagree on a subjective matter of values, it is to lie.
You cannot argue that abortion is not wrong, if you are to also argue that murder is wrong, since abortion is murder.
Elective Abortion is murder beacause it fits so utterly the bill that it is amazing so many fail to notice.
Abortion is an act of violence, with full intent, full use of rational faculties, intended to cause death and which actually does cause, inflicted against a human being and not done in proportianate self-defense.
As the saying goes, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
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As far as I'm concerned, mothers have a special 'ethical' relationship to the fetuses they carry; analogous more directly to the posited relationship between man and god than the relationship between men as equals. The only effective distinction between symbiotic and parasitic life is (in this case) the mother's will to carry. The mother is justified in exerting control over her own body by having the parasitic growth terminated. And also: fuck Irish law. Irish law does not apply to Britain and it is unethical for them to detain her.
No, it is the other way around.
The fetus requires it's mothers body to survive, much as you need air and water. Thus any exercise of bodily autonomy, in order to deprive it of it's mother's body, cannot then be justified by bodily autonomy. The fact the fetus is in it's present state, a parasite, gives it a right to a connection to it's host.
One very simple reason.
I cannot exercise my right to autonomy over my bodily resources, in order to actually cause others to die, by destroying their means of life support.
If my right to bodily autonomy stands in this case, then all murder is permitted, since all murder is exactly that.
One person exercising control over their bodily resources, deliberately, with full intent and full use of mental faculties etc, in such a way as to cause the cessation of life in another human bieng.
Overall, the PoliticsForum quiz considers you a socially-orientated, theist, big-government, nationalist, protectionist, controlled-market kind of person, who also seems quite Marxist.
Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.15
Posted: Thu 03 May 2007, 14:37
What kind of a stupid name is that!
