Andropov wrote:You have no moral qualms about killing all non-whites in the USA, millions of people, as long as it forwards your country's interests? Is murder immoral? Is anything immoral? If you saw an attractive woman alone by herself and knew you could rape her without being identified and caught, would there be anything unethical about raping her?
You are making the fallacy of composition, in reverse. I am a neo-Machiavellian, not a psychopath. In my personal life, while like everyone else my ethics can flex, I not only behave with some measure of moral decency but
feel morality emotionally. I simply do not see any rational reason to apply morality to politics, which of course is an extension of war, except to the extent that it produces real benefits.
Andropov wrote:Who is "us"? The United States is not some sort of autonomous sentience; it's an assortment of millions of people, each with their own individual interests. Why are you not an Illinoisan or a Chicagoan separatist? Why do you care more about a retarded American serial killer than a Ghanian doctor or an Indian biologist? Countries aren't entities; they don't have interests in and of themselves. People do, and what most people want is to be able to eat and not be raped by some warlord. Sometimes these interests line up and people create communities. A village may have clearly defined interests, but not a nation of millions of people. Is it really in "the interests of the USA" to support Israel, for example? I suppose so, but this does not affect individual Americans whatsoever. Is this is a personal thing and you are concerned with benefiting yourself, and do so by proxy through supporting the United States, which you are a part of? Your ideology has no basis.
What are you, a libertarian? Individuals, by themselves, are practically meaningless. Our entire existence is derived socially. You raise a good point as where the appropriate group boundary is, but I myself and Americans in general tend to possess strong feeling for America. Feeling for states is not very strong anymore outside of Texas.
I do not agree that it is in American interests to support Israel, and in fact our support for Israel does affect "individual Americans". Aside from the obvious fact that our moneys are taxed to support Israel, geopolitically this has consequences. An obvious example is that anti-American Islamic terrorism is, to some degree, fueled by our support for Israel.