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mikema63 wrote:If their is no scarcity due to technology then people will produce at home because it's cheaper due to distance and essentially free. Similarly other productions in a world without scarce basic resources would follow the same lines as online open source communities and programs like Wikipedia and Linux.
The system would break down not force evy one else to it.
IMHO.
And that wouldn't be a problem anyway. people don't go outside to buy a software anymore, as you noted well.
mikema63 wrote:Beer can most certainly be produced at home, in fact batteries motors are already printable and they are actually working on microchips so whole computers may be done.
I don't see all production going to the home obviously but I do see many if not all "neccesities" being at least possible if not done.
Decky wrote:Oh yea that's why there are no game shops, I must imagine the ones I see in town.
What a load of nonsense, you "digital age" types have no idea how people really live.
Figlio di Moros wrote:In other words, even the proposal for energy credits is obsolete, tracking takes places automatically today and accounting for consumption in Technocracy would be a streamlined process.
Kolzene wrote:I'm not sure where you got your information, but what you are talking about is not Technocracy. No one in a Technocracy can "order 15,000 private jets" simply because there is no private ownership, so they can't even own one. The reason for this is in good part the problem that you describe, in that it invites waste like this. What people can do is fly wherever they want, whenever they want, so why would they want the bother of owning a plane at all when there would be functionally no difference?
Kolzene wrote:And I see that this meme is a tough one to kill, so I'll just reiterate here that "energy credits" is not a Technocracy term, there are no such things in Technocracy.
Kolzene wrote:Remember that Technocracy is an economic system, not a political one, one that does not require any political system, so it will not need to "take power" in the political sense.
Kolzene wrote:You can still have in place mechanisms to recognize problems like this without resorting to rationing. If someone orders an anomalous amount of toothbrushes, it would be up to the Sequence of Social Relations to investigate. Perhaps they have a good reason for it, such as a specific art project, or some social function. Then an increased amount could be allowed. Perhaps it was simply an error, like a typo. Or perhaps they are under a great deal of emotional distress and are acting irrationally and need help. Such an investigation would figure out the cause, and determine an appropriate solution to it. And disallowing amounts that are largely anomalous does not in any way impinge on a person's lifestyle choices. The laws of the Technate centre on keeping the Technate functioning, and being simply wasteful is against that. But it's not like it would require a arrest and court appearance; the likelihood of anyone doing any such thing is extremely small, and an investigation by the SSR would even then most likely resolve the issue to everyone's satisfaction.
Kolzene wrote:That group is not a "chapter" of Technocracy, nor do they endorse Technocracy as it has been proposed by the Technical Alliance and Technocracy Inc., they have their own ideas about what is best for Europe and sometimes borrow ideas from Technocracy and even occasionally use that word. They even changed their name in order to reflect this fact. They are not a good source of information about the subject. You are better off to go here: http://www.technocracy.ca
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