That said I think we need to make a distinction between those happy that America was giving a hammer-blow, and those that celebrate the deaths.
It's one thing to want to celebrate your enemies defeat, it's quite another to celebrate their deaths.
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NY Yankees suck. wrote:There were also people lining the streets of Palestine cheering at the news that America had been attacked.
Goranhammer wrote:Granted, I'm not saying this is representative of all or even most Canadians, but I'm adamant when I say that the vast majority saw a smile come to their faces when they heard the news.
Only an idiot of a Canadian would say the United States is an "enemy". Anyone who thinks that is either self-righteous as hell, or just incredibly bored.
This happens between the two sides every once in a while, and after the two sides identify each other, the issue is resolved.â€
How do you know the British weren't encroaching the Iranian waters?
Western media wouldn't lie to us, would it?!?! SAY IT AIN'T SO!
In an update to the story, the US is admitting...er...announcing that the message they received may not have come from the Iranian boats.
"The Navy never said specifically where the voices came from, but many were left with the impression they had come from the speedboats because of the way the Navy footage was edited.
Today, the spokesperson for the U.S. admiral in charge of the Fifth Fleet clarified to ABC News that the threat may have come from the Iranian boats, or it may have come from somewhere else."
Yes, because Iran want nothing but confrontation with the US
Iran releases its video of confrontation at sea
Jan. 10, 2008 01:42 PM
In a challenge to the U.S. version of events, Iran Thursday released a video of the confrontation Sunday between five small Iranian speedboats and three U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf.
The five-minute video does not include the confrontation or threatening language described by U.S. officials, who released their own video of the incident Tuesday. Instead, it shows Iranian navy personnel calmly radioing U.S. warships to ask for additional information on ship identification.
It also shows the Iranian patrol boats near but not closing in on the USS Port Royal and two accompanying vessels and captures a radio exchange in English.
â€œCoalition warship 73, this is Iranian navy patrol boat,â€ an Iranian officer says in English. One of the American warships responds: â€œThis is coalition warship 73. I read you loud and clear.â€
The Iranian officer, dressed in a life vest and keffiyeh scarf, then says: â€œCoalition warship 73, this Iranian navy patrol boat, request side number ... operating in the area (at) this time.â€
Like the four-minute U.S. video released Tuesday, the Iranian video does not capture the entire encounter, which U.S. officials said lasted 20 to 30 minutes, and is therefore difficult to reconcile with the conflicting American version of events. The Iranian video was released by Iran's Press TV satellite station.
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Iranian video does not refute the U.S. version. â€œSimply choosing not to reveal the careless and reckless actions in this video does not change the facts from what took place,â€ he said in an e-mail.
The Pentagon charged that the Iranian vessels threatened to â€œexplodeâ€ the U.S. warships and dropped white box-like objects in the water before abruptly turning around and heading north toward Iran.
A U.S. Navy official noted that both versions could reflect the events that transpired.
The State Department said it has sent a formal protest to Iran via the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, which has handled American interests in Iran since the break in formal relations in 1980. â€œWe have ... prepared and given to the Swiss a diplomatic note formally protesting this incident,â€ said State Department spokesman Tom Casey.
In Tehran, Revolutionary Guards Brig. General Ali Fadavi charged that the United States was creating a â€œmedia fuss,â€ the Fars News Agency reported. He said the Iranian navy's goal was to obtain registration numbers that had been unreadable.
The incident has triggered tough words from the United States. President Bush has twice called the encounter a â€œprovocationâ€ and warned that Iran faced â€œserious consequencesâ€ if it happened again.
Parts of the video record conversations in Persian between Iranians on the patrol boat. They appear to be discussing the clarification requested and a radio frequency change, according to two Persian-speakers contacted by the Washington Post. At one point, the Iranian officer appears to be checking a Global Positioning System device.
â€œWe don't know whether the Iranian version is edited, but from what we see, it appears to be a fairly normal exchange between Iranian naval patrol boats and U.S. ships in the Strait of Hormuz. The Iranian naval person asks the U.S. to identify itself, which it does,â€ said Shaul Bakhash, an Iran expert at George Mason University whose wife was detained in Iran for more than eight months last year.
â€œThere is nothing on that tape to indicate a confrontation, the danger of hostilities and certainly no statement by the Iranian side as alleged by the U.S. side that the Iranians were coming at them,â€ he said.
oxymoron wrote:Yes they do, unless the capturing British Sailors was an accident.
Yes they do, unless the capturing British Sailors was an accident.
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