- 13 Feb 2008 07:31
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Did I say that? No. I stated that I would understand the motive behind the crime if such a crime had occured - not that I would personally participate in or approve of any such action. Sometimes, people themselves create the circumstances in which they become victims.
Indeed - Fair enough.
Yet why is it that Turkey often has to be dragged kicking and screaming all the way? No proud people appreciate foreign meddling, unless a state is too weak to manage it's own affairs - I don't believe that applies to Turkey, and it most certainly does not apply to Germany.
Slow at tackling fascist elements?
You are losing me here. Have you ever actually been, if I may be so blunt? There is a larger Neo-Nazi movement in the United States, for God's sake.
Should official policy be altered so that Turkish, Italian, Greek, and every other minority language is elevated to the status of German? This is not an international free-for-all zone.
Why do I seem to get the impression that your opinion doesn't align with the current majority sentiment in Ankara?
Origins are irrelevant to what I have to say on the matter, and I would feel the same if this were any other state under siege. Why bring it up unless you yourself wished to make an arbitrary point about race? By stereotyping an entire people, you are no better than those who stereotype Turks as uneducated savages, which we both know is not true.
If a man beats another man to death with a whip in the United States, parallels should be drawn to the 200 year-old institution of slavery? What you're putting forth is inappropriate and serves only to inflame. This has nothing to do with Nazis or death camps, so leave it in the history book, champ.
Yes, I understand. For you, sometimes, It is quite justifiable to set fire on peoples flesh.
Did I say that? No. I stated that I would understand the motive behind the crime if such a crime had occured - not that I would personally participate in or approve of any such action. Sometimes, people themselves create the circumstances in which they become victims.
I sincerely hope it was an accident. But, we need to wait till truth reveals itself.
Indeed - Fair enough.
Well, we have European involvement in numerous Turkish internal affairs and I can say their involvement sometimes help
Yet why is it that Turkey often has to be dragged kicking and screaming all the way? No proud people appreciate foreign meddling, unless a state is too weak to manage it's own affairs - I don't believe that applies to Turkey, and it most certainly does not apply to Germany.
Since Germany is somehow slow and may be reluctant in tackling the fascists elements within, may be it is time for Europeans involvement in Germany. For the good of majority, of course.
Slow at tackling fascist elements?
You are losing me here. Have you ever actually been, if I may be so blunt? There is a larger Neo-Nazi movement in the United States, for God's sake.
If the case was as you described, then oops. They should have thought about it before granting citizenship and permanent working visa to millions of Turks, Greeks, Italians and Yugoslavians.
Should official policy be altered so that Turkish, Italian, Greek, and every other minority language is elevated to the status of German? This is not an international free-for-all zone.
Flourishing Kurdish culture can make me nothing but happy. Cultures get richer with amalgamation and die in quarantine.
Why do I seem to get the impression that your opinion doesn't align with the current majority sentiment in Ankara?
So speaks the Nazi sympathizer, who, by chance, happens to be originating from Germany.
Origins are irrelevant to what I have to say on the matter, and I would feel the same if this were any other state under siege. Why bring it up unless you yourself wished to make an arbitrary point about race? By stereotyping an entire people, you are no better than those who stereotype Turks as uneducated savages, which we both know is not true.
If this event appears to be another fascist assault as it happened before, I must have a bit of justification for drawing analogies between people torched in concentration camps and people torched in their houses by the members of the very same nation.
If a man beats another man to death with a whip in the United States, parallels should be drawn to the 200 year-old institution of slavery? What you're putting forth is inappropriate and serves only to inflame. This has nothing to do with Nazis or death camps, so leave it in the history book, champ.
"I am never guided by a possible assessment of my work" - President Vladimir Putin
"Nations whose nationalism is destroyed are subject to ruin." - Muammar Qaddafi
"Nations whose nationalism is destroyed are subject to ruin." - Muammar Qaddafi
Go do some research and stop bleeting out your ignorant notions on culture. You are saying that the Turkish media is altering facts but frankly your grasp of "culture" and "history" reflect typical right-wing propaganda (I don't like to over-generalize people, but you attitude must clearly be reciprocated).
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