[abu_rashid]

Visualising some perspective.

[ComradeTim]

Bearing that perspective in mind, I propose the forced conversion of all Christians of European heritage and Muslims. They are all clearly dangers to the safety of peace-loving Non-European Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and so on.

[layman]

The chart above are as meaningless as the ones point to assads greater "kid kill rate".

If ISIS had nukes they would use on us. If they had barrel bombs they would use them on civilians. As it happens they can only kill low number os innocents due to their poor arms.

It is about both intent AND capability. The west has always had far superior methods of killing. Well, since the dark ages that is.

[abu_rashid]

We didn't mass immigrate into Europe to let you damn commies take over, we're going to take Europe, one way or another.

[layman]

We didn't mass immigrate into Europe to let you damn commies take over, we're going to take Europe, one way or another.

More fantasy from abu who has now gone Full troll

[Saeko]

Well, there is the clear correlation between suicide attacks and foreign occupation. If we get rid of the latter, the former should also dwindle to nothing.

Armies in a Middle Eastern country that are not Western are also perfectly capable of being foreign occupiers.

Some of the violence in Europe can be attributed to foreign occupation. The IRA are the obvious example.

The fact that Europeans are violent with each other even in the absence of foreign occupation does not contradict the OP's claim that certain types of violence are due to foreign occupation. It is possible for foreign occupation to lead to suicide attacks and for Europeans to have other reasons for killing each other.

I agree, but that applies equally well to the Middle East. Again, I seriously doubt ME countries will not go to war (which often involves occupation) with each other.

[Pants-of-dog]

Armies in a Middle Eastern country that are not Western are also perfectly capable of being foreign occupiers.

Of course they are. I fail to see how this contradicts anything I have said.

I agree, but that applies equally well to the Middle East. Again, I seriously doubt ME countries will not go to war (which often involves occupation) with each other.

And like I said, Muslims (like everyone else) are capable of being violent, and that they (like everyone else) have a history that shows exactly that.

[abu_rashid]

Saeko,

Nobody is suggesting Muslims are incapable of violence, just countering the tripe that Muslims are especially prone to violence due to some innate barbarous trait.