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Journalist: Mr Farage can you reaffirm your promise that money saved will go to the NHS?

Farage: No, no I never said that.
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:lol:

Not sure what else can be said to that. Except that if you actually thought Nigel Farage was going to seriously do that then your kind of a nitwit.
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By noemon
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ThereBeDragons wrote:I like how nobody had a problem with the referendum until the wrong side won. At the end of the day if merely asking the wrong question rips the country in half then there was something wrong with your society to begin with.

The attempt by Britain's progressives and technocrats to achieve success by simply ignoring dissent has failed spectacularly. Shaming racists and xenophobes out of civil society doesn't actually get rid of racism and xenophobia; it merely grants them the righteousness of the oppressed. Maybe the technocrats and experts up in London should have thought about paying a bit of attention to the poor and uneducated voters of Britain before writing them off as irrelevant; if Britain weren't a democracy it might even have worked.

There was a time when progressivism looked to the working poor, stupid and uneducated as they might be, as the source of their legitimacy. Now they are demonized for failing to hold the correct set of opinions. Unfortunately, militantly ignoring people doesn't actually make them go away. Forget the victory of the right; what we are witnessing today is the complete tactical failure of the left.


Very well said mate, the arrogance of the modern liberals, champagne socialists and leftists is just mind-boggling some people actually thought that the end of history is nigh and that any anti-systemic attempt can only be marginalised, ridiculed and scorned. I hope that some people wake up before it's too late.
By N^G
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ingliz wrote:By blocking up the parliamentary legislative timetable for years, pro-European MPs and some government sources believe it may be possible to use the Commons to scupper a referendum vote to quit the European Union.

Pro-EU MPs could stage guerrilla campaign to reverse Brexit decision


:lol:



I would have scoffed at this beforehand, but with the 2.5m petition, Scotland gearing up to leave, NI gearing up to challenge their status quo, London looking like it wants to be some sort of muslim caliphate rather than remain in the UK, this tactic might very well be seen as some to be a stabiliser, so don't be surprised if stuff in the linked article occurs, especially given the non-leadership so far since Cameron stepped away from the situation.
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Albert wrote:@noemon do you feel really cheesed right now Noemon? I'm really enjoying myself right now and I was just wondering.


I'm feeling fine mate, I am in one of the finest beaches in the world enjoying the Greek weather, and last night when you sent me this message I was drinking until 9am in the morning, then went for a swim while enjoying a parade of bums on a string before downing a huge burger for the ultimate finish. All in all I'm feeling grande and cheesy.

Glad to hear that something has made your day. :up:
By layman
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I'm feeling fine mate, I am in one of the finest beaches in the world enjoying the Greek weather, and last night when you sent me this message I was drinking until 9am in the morning, then went for a swim while enjoying a parade of bums on a string before downing a huge burger for the ultimate finish. All in all I'm feeling grande and cheesy.

Glad to hear that something has made your day.


I am not. As well as the insanity of leaving (or being kicked from) the single market, we might end up losing excellent people like you. EU migrants are a huge boost to our economy and our cultural landscape.

The only hope now is a grand fudging. Even the brexiteers dont want to go down the article 50 route and havnt got a clue what the plan is. Interestingly, the EU announcement yesterday seemed to backtrack and hand an olive branch.
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By Albert
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@layman why would they not want to legislate act 50 and withdraw from EU? This is what the referendum was all about.

The only reason why they would not want to do it now. Is because they want to change the government first. As Cameroon wants nothing to do with it.
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:lol:

The propaganda is in full swing I see. "Well the majority who voted to tell the EU to fuck off actually love the EU." It is great to see the middle class cry and whinge and bitch. :lol: We know what we voted for we want out. If you want to be European so desperately get a ferry across the channel and defect Layman.
By layman
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@layman why would they not want to legislate act 50 and withdraw from EU? This is what the referendum was all about.


Boris stated before the election that he doesnt want to go down that route because the article 50 route is bias in favour of the remaining members.

They would would rather use informal discussions.

This gives him more wiggle room for fudging. Remember this guy is an opportunist unlike Ian duncan smith, for example.

Also, both the westminster parliament (80% who want remain) and the scottish parliament (95% of who want remain) can block this. Not saying they will but they can. There is also the possibility of a general election of they do try this.

There is after all no clear mandate and the core promises (less migration and increased spending) have turned out to be brazen lies in 24 hours.

Food for thought here http://qz.com/717182/a-brexit-conspirac ... imself-in/
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layman wrote:Also, both the westminster parliament (80% who want remain) and the scottish parliament (95% of who want remain) can block this. Not saying they will but they can. There is also the possibility of a general election of they do try this.

What if Leave campaign people riot?

It seems like Remain people get nasty and not democracy friendly. But i have an advice for you: stop whining and respect the outcome.
By layman
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You seem to be one of the many people here who like the result for reasons not related to british interests. That is fine but you need to also understand those of us who have a stake.

We are quite used to riots I assure you and have plenty of tear gas stockpiled.

Democracy can suck my dick. This result just demonstrates how bad referendums are and how ignorant people vote against their own interests.
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By Albert
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@layman Boris said that the article not need to be triggered right away. As it is prudent not to rush the procedure.

The link you provided is poor journalism.

If the government decides not to initiate the withdrawal from EU they will basically throw more then half of the country into further dissent which will grow more extreme in the end.

And as Ista said, I'm always surprises remain like people. Who are usually liberal in mindset not respecting democratical outcome which they do not favour.

As if the result would have been reverse, and leave side was protesting. The same people would have send in the water cannons and riot police in.

Edit: Oh I just read what you posted. You are indeed one of those liberal minded people. The dogs and tear gas should be set on fuck tards who protest now. With all their hippy like shinanigans, making out.

And the military should be send to Scotland and their Parliament disbanded. Fuck democracy right?
By layman
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As if the result would have been reverse, and leave side was protesting. The same people would have send in the water cannons and riot police in.


Funny as farage said if the result was close in favour remain, it should be rerun.

PS not sure on what universe tear gas is liberal :hmm:
By Decky
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It is used by liberals to drive the working class from the streets when we try and exercise political autonomy.
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By noemon
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layman wrote:I am not. As well as the insanity of leaving (or being kicked from) the single market, we might end up losing excellent people like you. EU migrants are a huge boost to our economy and our cultural landscape.

The only hope now is a grand fudging. Even the brexiteers dont want to go down the article 50 route and havnt got a clue what the plan is. Interestingly, the EU announcement yesterday seemed to backtrack and hand an olive branch.



Thanks layman, I am feeling confident that Britain will do the right thing mate, plus whatever happens the freedom of movement of EU citizens goes hand in hand with access to the free market, so I am guessing that Britain does not have the option to do much in that regard anyway.
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layman wrote:Democracy can suck my dick. This result just demonstrates how bad referendums are and how ignorant people vote against their own interests.


Albert wrote:

And as Ista said, I'm always surprises remain like people. Who are usually liberal in mindset not respecting democratical outcome which they do not favour.

Edit: Oh I just read what you posted. You are indeed one of those liberal minded people. The dogs and tear gas should be set on fuck tards who protest now. With all their hippy like shinanigans, making out.

It is typical Eurocrats mind.

Those in EU parliament do not respect Turkey's election results. Now they do not respect British people's choice, too.
By layman
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Thanks layman, I am feeling confident that Britain will do the right thing mate, plus whatever happens the freedom of movement of EU citizens goes hand in hand with access to the free market, so I am guessing that Britain does not have the option to do much in that regard anyway.


No, thank you for choosing my country to bring your Intelligence and skills. We are richer for it.

Of course there is no question of sending anyone home. Not even UKIP would dare suggest this. In fact the next leaders - whether may or boris - will literally do anything for single market access. At the very least this will involve free movement and a a hefty membership fee - without the influence. *facepalm

Notice the total lack of celebration anywhere. Notice how boris looks glum? Also, SNP can block this and will if they have to. Westermister parliment would have to vote to try to force it through and they are 75% pro eu. Scottish parlament more like 95%.

This would lead to a Constitutional crisis.

Reminds me of the bishops war when Charles the 2nd tried to force through the English prayer book. That didn't go too well for the English either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishops%27_Wars

Those in EU parliament do not respect Turkey's election results.


That is rich. What did golum do when he didnt get a majority? Started a war to manipulate the electorate.
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layman wrote:That is rich. What did golum do when he didnt get a majority?

It is just opposition parties failed at forming a coalition government. Main opposition party offered the premiership position to leader of minor opposition party. But minor opposition refused that.

After that, we went to a snap election. The electorate punished opposition and gave the majority back to the ruling party.

Started a war to manipulate the electorate.

Turkish people support "the war on terrorism". AKP's vote sahre rose by %10 with these anti- terror operations.
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