- 25 Jun 2016 06:32
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All day when following the news whether on here or some of the usual suspects in British media (drop in on the Guardian if anyone wishes to see a funerary procession in full swing) I've heard the same sort of reaching pleas. "Scotland voted remain in!", "Northern Ireland voted remain in!", "The youth demographic voted remain in!", etc. ad nauseum. It just comes across as pathetic and desperate because none of it matters. The United Kingdom as a whole, accounting for all ages, backgrounds, constituent nations and regions, voted to leave. That is what counts here and that is the news story. And thank God for that.
Let's imagine a scenario which is reversed in which the remain vote won out as most of us anticipated, whether it was by 10% or 5% or 1%. Do you imagine for a second those people would be pointing to the fact that the majority of white working class Englishmen voted to leave (as well as many non-white British citizens in England's industrial blue collar areas), or that the senior age bracket voted to leave and making an implication that this somehow puts the vote's fairness or validity in question? They would be castigating and casting aside such people in a heartbeat and drinking to their tears.
If every time there was a referendum in any country and those who opposed the outcome pointed to the contrary stance of their home region/state/city as grounds for secession and the dissolution of their country, then it would be an invitation to anarchy.
Being an ethnic and cultural nationalist I was initially sympathetic on principle to my interpretation of the sentiment behind Scotland's independence referendum, but the more I saw who and what Salmond, the SNP and their supporting base are and stand for in Scotland, the more I feel comfortable with the position I adopted as the date drew closer which was a position for a united Britain, a United Kingdom. That feeling and conclusion couldn't be more vindicated today. It's a sad thing for those Scots historically who were willing to kill and die to secure the autonomy of their realm from English overreach but today the greatest threat to them is themselves, the political class in Edinburgh. Modern Scottish nationalism/separatism is nothing but an ideologically bankrupt platform for those who want to assert their "independence" by ditching their fellow Britons, much ethnic and cultural kin among them, to cling to the largest and most pervasive supranational organization on the planet as it accelerates an integration process intended by its architects to be irreversible. Such people should shut up or be made to shut up so I hope Westminster if it has any wisdom still quashes this idea before it even becomes a serious debate. This is the first referendum held on the UK status in the EU since the pathway to accession in the 1970's, so there's certainly no need to talk of another Scottish referendum after less than two years.
Let's imagine a scenario which is reversed in which the remain vote won out as most of us anticipated, whether it was by 10% or 5% or 1%. Do you imagine for a second those people would be pointing to the fact that the majority of white working class Englishmen voted to leave (as well as many non-white British citizens in England's industrial blue collar areas), or that the senior age bracket voted to leave and making an implication that this somehow puts the vote's fairness or validity in question? They would be castigating and casting aside such people in a heartbeat and drinking to their tears.
If every time there was a referendum in any country and those who opposed the outcome pointed to the contrary stance of their home region/state/city as grounds for secession and the dissolution of their country, then it would be an invitation to anarchy.
Being an ethnic and cultural nationalist I was initially sympathetic on principle to my interpretation of the sentiment behind Scotland's independence referendum, but the more I saw who and what Salmond, the SNP and their supporting base are and stand for in Scotland, the more I feel comfortable with the position I adopted as the date drew closer which was a position for a united Britain, a United Kingdom. That feeling and conclusion couldn't be more vindicated today. It's a sad thing for those Scots historically who were willing to kill and die to secure the autonomy of their realm from English overreach but today the greatest threat to them is themselves, the political class in Edinburgh. Modern Scottish nationalism/separatism is nothing but an ideologically bankrupt platform for those who want to assert their "independence" by ditching their fellow Britons, much ethnic and cultural kin among them, to cling to the largest and most pervasive supranational organization on the planet as it accelerates an integration process intended by its architects to be irreversible. Such people should shut up or be made to shut up so I hope Westminster if it has any wisdom still quashes this idea before it even becomes a serious debate. This is the first referendum held on the UK status in the EU since the pathway to accession in the 1970's, so there's certainly no need to talk of another Scottish referendum after less than two years.
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