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QatzelOk wrote:Racist? Really?

He married a Slavic woman, which means that he sleeps with other "races," unlike that inbred KKK-supporting misandrous bitch he's trying to protect America from.

You know, the woman whose complimentary thread title should be "Hillary lies through her teeth for bribes; the establishment relishes it"

We should be grateful to him for saving all of us from Ted Cruz indeed, but I wonder if he really means to save us from the Clintons. I really like the guy as a joke, but what he represents as a presidential candidate is awful. It's still hard to believe.

Also, how are Slavs a different race from whites? As a matter of fact their females are considered the best of whites by many. Their marriage doesn't prove at all that the Donald is not a racist.
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Beren wrote:Also, how are Slavs a different race from whites? As a matter of fact their females are considered the best of whites by many. Their marriage doesn't prove at all that the Donald is not a racist.

Race is an invented concept, so your attempt to be "concise" here... is just empty trolling.
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QatzelOk wrote:Race is an invented concept, so your attempt to be "concise" here... is just empty trolling.

What you're doing is the classic case of trolling combined with bullshitting Qatz. Race might be an invented concept, but that concept doesn't make the Donald's race different from that of Melania's. They are the same race, Melania is the whitest trophy Trump could get for himself.
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SO wrote:I consider Slaves a different species altogether. Trump is committing bestiality.
You are over-reacting. You're also thinking of the Dutch, not Slavs.
#14706307
I'm watching H.Clinton's speech. She is a tough bitch. I think trump has met his match. She will cut him up and hang him out to dry. Stay tuned folks. The trumpster is about to get a much needed and over due lesson. :D
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jimjam wrote:I'm watching H.Clinton's speech. She is a tough bitch. I think trump has met his match. She will cut him up and hang him out to dry. Stay tuned folks. The trumpster is about to get a much needed and over due lesson. :D


Are we watching the same speech? She was fucking boring as hell, the crowd only cheered loud once....

Celebrity Gloryshots and cheap pop-music didn't help. Heck and I'm even a fan of Katy Perry.

Ask people which "party" they would have liked to attend and I'm 100% certain the majority would have picked the RNC. God, even Trump's wife gave a more interesting speech than Hillary.

Worst acceptance speech ever?
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There were several loud chants. Clinton's not the best speaker but her speech had more substance than Trump. However, the ingredient listing on the back of a cereal box has more substance than Trump's speech.

Also the RNC was a shitshow. Lol yeah let's go see ~Scott Baio~
#14706315
I think we can all agree nothing will ever beat Clint Eastwood lecturing a chair.

The only way that one could have been better is if Clint pointed at the air next to the chair and growled, "Sit, boy" before starting.

This is kind of embarrassing, but did they ever reveal who was supposed to be in the chair? Did the dude show up late or something?
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SpecialOlympian wrote:There were several loud chants.


Drowned out on the Television Set by a bad editor cutting in a shot of Katy Perry's reaction to whatever she just said..... Then Ted Danson falling asleep and Sanders looking like he'd rather be outside but has to stay inside the building or he'll get stabbed in the back while walking out....
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Were we watching the same feed? Hillary had to speak over chants of her own name several times.

And yeah, Sanders has looked less than enthused in every shot in all four days of the convention. Who can blame him? It's like making the silver and bronze medalists watch from the sidelines while they hand off the gold.

Idea: On election night, make a fake news feed that only broadcasts to Trump's hotel room. It will show him winning, and from then on a special Secret Service detail will escort him to a fake White House in a fake Washington D.C. so he can begin presidenting (he won't know he has to wait to be sworn in, trust me).

Get real world leaders to show up and do fake meetings with him. Every episode of this amazing reality show will begin with Putin giving Trump orders for his next Presidential Challenge, where Trump can win big prizes.

This will be a major diplomatic coup. Every world leader will befriend us in hopes of being on The Trumpman Show.
#14706320
It was a serious speech from a serious person. The democratic convention has been filled with them. I can't think of a single one at the republican convention.

Trump may still win. It will be interesting to see the debates. Trump will just throw shit balls and empty accusations. He will score points with this usual dull-headed followers but the independents will reject that tactic.
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I was watching the feed live on ABC News24 on my TV.

They cut to a live press conference of our PM Malcolm Turnbull discussing his rather valid reasons for not endorsing former PM Kevin Rudd's bid for the UN Secretary General between Chelsea and Hillary.... and quite passionately at that. We went from the DNC, to our own PM, back to the DNC.

So it kinda made the bad editing of the Hillary speech more obvious, as Turnbull frankly had better editing and is a better Orator than she is.... We got close up shots and everything as Turnbull took to the mic to explain his "valid reasons" for denying Rudd his shot, then cut back(when Hillary took to the podium so we saw the whole thing) into a speech that looked boring as hell in comparison.
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:lol:

Delegate exposes DNC sham - White noise machine, and hundres of seats reserved for actors
https://vid.me/4tYB

Despicable, from a reddit user:

So there is a post on /r/The_Donald claiming that the AMA by Donald Trump, an American presidential nominee, was subject to vote manipulation by the Reddit administrators. Apparently, the number of votes fell by thousands over the course of several hours. Now, I certainly like to think the best of the admins, in part because a lot of people in the Reddit 'shitlordsphere' do not buy the idea that the admins are out to push a political agenda. Here is what happened:

29 minutes in, it was at the top of r/all: http://archive.is/XLUwr
After 52 minutes, it had already dipped to place 2: http://archive.is/YVhRF
And 19 minutes later, it was completely gone from the first page: http://archive.is/JGN59

Sounds a little fishy. But unfortunately, upon further investigation, it turned out that it is even worse than it was claimed. The vote manipulation was not a one-time affair either: over the course of eight hours, the upvote numbers on Trump's AMA fell by about 10,000 - while the 'total vote number' remained constant (as can be judged by the percentage of votes indicated).

I will post a link to the list of total archived posts in the comments, because it leads to my post being pulled by the automoderator. In the first 1.5 hours of the post being upvotes rose to 11,789. The post went from being almost unanimously upvoted to being quite controversial - the 11,789 made up only 63% of the upvotes on the post. This may be manipulation, or it may be people downvoting it as it got to /r/all.

About 10 minutes after midnight UTC is apparently where the manipulation by the admins began. After this, the 63% remained constant, even as the net upvotes started falling off a cliff. In the first fifteen minutes, the post lost 750 upvotes (11,020 remaining). Note the stunning 42,000 people who were active on the sub at the time. After one hour and ten minutes, the post was at 8,633. This went all the way down to 1,752 in the last archive... with the percentage of upvotes still being 63%. This number is inconsistent with the post karma on Trump's account, which is more than 5,000.

I ran a regression analysis on the relationship between the number of upvotes and the time elapsed since the second archive (since the manipulation may have started somewhere between the two) and the second to last one. An exponential regression shows that 97.1% of the upvotes are explained by the number of intervening minutes. A simple calculation also shows that there is a negative correlation of -0.94 between the number of elapsed minutes and the net upvotes on the AMA. Even if we assumed that brigadiers are responsible for downvotes, and the 63% was just a glitch, they would have to be an organized army of thousands, each downvoting at the designated minute, in order to achieve this result. Ockham's razor suggests that there was not.

Here you can see it for yourself.

No, this appears to be the algorithm the Reddit administrators use to nerf posts they dislike. And while I do understand that they don't want 2/3 of the posts on /r/all being shitposts and meme-posts on /r/The_Donald, which are something that probably do not interest the average /r/all browser, sabotaging the AMA of a presidential candidate is breathtaking in its audacity.

Now, some have argued that this is just 'normal Reddit', because there used to be a normalization 'vote cap'. Snowden's AMA ended up with fewer votes than it started. However, it never fell from r/all, like this post did, and it ended up with about 5000 upvotes - and no evidence have been provided where the upvote number fell to fewer than 2000, as with this one. And as the admin Deimorz said, the 'normalization' pushes the votes 'into range'. This cap is about 5000, not fewer than 2000.

If it has something to do with the new algorithm, why don't other posts rapidly fall from r/all and then keep acquiring downvotes? Why does this not happen to other posts? It also doesn't explain why the total number of votes fell, even as the upvote percentage remained at 63%. Presumably, people kept voting - there were tens of thousands of active people on /r/The_Donald as the nerfing started - did none of them vote? There is definitely some fishy business going on, and thus far, I have not seen any convincing explanation for this. If the admins address it and have a legitimate explanation, sure, I'll believe it if it is reasonable. But be careful that you don't turn into a useful idiot for censorship and make the excuses for would-be censors when they don't offer any of their own.

It doesn't matter whom you support for president. I certainly don't like either candidate. But even if free speech is insufficient to bring you to object to such blatant manipulation, think of the treatment that will be dealt out to us if we let them get away with blatant censorship, manipulation and unfairness. If we do not stand up for free speech even when we dislike it, ours may well be the next 'free speech' on the chopping block.

TL;DR: A Trump AMA reached the top spot at r/all and then promptly fell from the first page. It turns out that there are some rather strange things going on with it, like the total number of votes declining as the hours passed, which had the AMA ending up with fewer than 2000 upvotes. An analysis shows that there was apparently a timed nerfing applied to it by the Reddit admins, because the vote number declined rather predictably. At the very least, this looks extremely suspicious.
#14706332
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” said Mr Trump, speaking at one of his golf resorts. “I think you’ll be rewarded mightily by our press.”

:lol:

How can anyone call this guy a nationalist is beyond me.
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noemon wrote:Are you willing to pay the price of a US broken along ethno-national lines?

That is a question that every American should ask himself I would think, every American that supports ethno-national segregation that is.

It's already that way. The Democrats have basically kicked white working class males out of their party. Whites are more socially cohesive than other factions in the US.

Beren wrote:They are the same race, Melania is the whitest trophy Trump could get for himself.

Ivana and Marla were whiter, but Melania is way hotter than Hillary Clinton.

jim jam wrote:She is a [s]tough[/s] bitch.

For someone who has been in power recently, she sure is angry about her accomplishments. I can't help but notice the contrast of everyone trying to "humanize" her, and she just comes out and screams for an hour. She really wants to be out of the closet and no longer married to Bill. That has to be why she's always so angry.

colliric wrote:Are we watching the same speech? She was fucking boring as hell, the crowd only cheered loud once....

She just has such a shrill voice. Bill fell asleep during the speech. DID BILL CLINTON FALL ASLEEP DURING HILLARY’S SPEECH?

colliric wrote:Then Ted Danson falling asleep and Sanders looking like he'd rather be outside but has to stay inside the building or he'll get stabbed in the back while walking out....

Ted Danson? Hell, Bill fell asleep. I had to put it on mute, because I can't stand the sound of her voice.

Drlee wrote:He will score points with this usual dull-headed followers but the independents will reject that tactic.

Trump won by bringing in independents and Reagan Democrats.

Drlee wrote:I can't think of a single one at the republican convention.

Donald Trump has forced them to use his language. They are talking about a "rigged" system and unfair trade deals. That wouldn't have been a factor had it not been for Trump. When Bernie picked up on that, he got 43% of the vote. That's why the Democrats are using phrases like "Stronger together," because Bernie has fractured the party.
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