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Among Trump’s voters a striking 83% would use the word “evil” to describe Clinton. Clinton voters aren’t much less willing to mince their words, with 66% describing Trump as “evil”.

https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/08/2 ... ot-really/

Interestingly, only 1 in 20 see two evils.

This doesn't seem to bode well for the future. Neither the "lesser of two evils" framing nor "they're both the same" framing can be fitted into a Manichean war between good and evil. You cannot accept a role as the loyal opposition when your opponent is in the service of evil. Nor can you make a third-party choice, when the forces of light and darkness are at war.
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Godstud wrote:Trump is a demagogue.He's NOT a good businessman, as good businessmen don't have to sue tons of people and go bankrupt to succeed. Good businessmen aren't usually given everything to them, either, as his daddy did.

Trump IS the 1% that everyone hates. He IS the establishment. He sits on his golden throne, in his golden room and stalks about how middle class he is and you saps suck it all up like good little shmucks. If he gets in power he'll do NOTHING for you, because all he cares about is himself.

So what? Trump won't do anything for you either. That's the genius of voting for him.
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quetzalcoatl wrote:Among Trump’s voters a striking 83% would use the word “evil” to describe Clinton. Clinton voters aren’t much less willing to mince their words, with 66% describing Trump as “evil”.

https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/08/2 ... ot-really/

Interestingly, only 1 in 20 see two evils.

This doesn't seem to bode well for the future. Neither the "lesser of two evils" framing nor "they're both the same" framing can be fitted into a Manichean war between good and evil. You cannot accept a role as the loyal opposition when your opponent is in the service of evil. Nor can you make a third-party choice, when the forces of light and darkness are at war.


It is at good as it gets. Whole world views could potentially collapse.

Even Hillary, in her own way, is so corrupt and terrible that her presidency would "shake things up" just as much as Trump.
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Lol Trump avoided the smaller 3-5 person debates because like any conman he folds like a baby changing station under even the barest scrutiny.

Hello, I'm an alt right shitlord, and I project my beliefs onto an orange fake billionaire because a complete fucking loser destined for a Romney sized, at minimum, ass whipping on election night will be the closest my views will ever come to having even the barest veneer of legitimacy. Lol I'm just a standard racist + the Internet, Pepe cuck meme!!
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Yeah I know you're expecting some kind of weird religious white uprising where whites assert their place by becoming isolationist shut ins disconnected from the rest of the world that we're dominating economically, militarily, and culturally.

And I guess the alt right's endgame is to model AMERICA after ifself, a shut in basement dweller masturbating to a conception of white master race hegemony which never really existed.

Also lol somehow this is supposed to be Catholic in nature? Congratulations on getting Catholicism 100% wrong you half assed faker.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:Yeah I know you're expecting some kind of weird religious white uprising where whites assert their place by becoming isolationist shut ins disconnected from the rest of the world that we're dominating economically, militarily, and culturally.

And I guess the alt right's endgame is to model AMERICA after ifself, a shut in basement dweller masturbating to a conception of white master race hegemony which never really existed.


The Alt-Right has become the vanguard of anti-imperialism. It's a good example of how white nationalism = pan-nationalism = is beneficial to the rest of humanity, which is being devoured and enslaved by a diversity-addicted oligarchy.

This used to be the Left's "thing", fighting the Man. What happened? Nobody knows.

Also lol somehow this is supposed to be Catholic in nature? Congratulations on getting Catholicism 100% wrong you half assed faker.


LOL, as if you know anything about Catholicism outside of Bergoglio's live tweeting.
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I was raised in the Catholic faith by better men than you who didn't fuck their brain into thinking white nationalism is somehow a favor to minorities.

Considering that we didn't have a Catholic president until Kennedy, and he was subject to fear mongering that he would be a slave to the pope, it's funny that Trump is the first possible president to pick a fight with a sitting pope.

My Cathoilic family, on both sides, lived by the following:

Deeds, not faith.

Lead by serving

Neither of these apply to casually cheering on a racist conman who can't even correctly reference a bible verse.

My Jesuit uncle represented civil rights protesters before the SCOTUS. That's what a fucking Catholic does.
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SpecialOlympian wrote:I was raised in the Catholic faith by better men than you who didn't fuck their brain into thinking white nationalism is somehow a favor to minorities.

Considering that we didn't have a Catholic president until Kennedy, and he was subject to fear mongering that he would be a slave to the pope, it's funny that Trump is the first possible president to pick a fight with a sitting pope.

My Cathoilic family, on both sides, lived by the following:

Deeds, not faith.

Lead by serving

Neither of these apply to casually cheering on a racist conman who can't even correctly reference a bible verse.

My Jesuit uncle represented civil rights protesters before the SCOTUS. That's what a fucking Catholic does.


Sounds like your family are Novus Ordo heretics who believe that Jesus Christ brought socialism instead of salvation into the world.
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My Cathoilic family, on both sides, lived by the following:

Deeds, not faith.

Lead by serving

Neither of these apply to casually cheering on a racist conman who can't even correctly reference a bible verse.

My Jesuit uncle represented civil rights protesters before the SCOTUS. That's what a fucking Catholic does.




Amen.
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I don't care or know about your esoteric nonsense Re: Novus Ordo and recognize it as the ink cloud of buzzwords you leave in your wake as you retreat from an argument like a cowardly, racist squid.

You are not a Catholic. You do not understand the words of Christ. Like Trump, you have sacrificed nothing and helped no one and yet you expect the world to rearrange itself for your benefit.

I'm an Atheist, and I have a better understanding and regard for Catholicism than you do. Do you even partake of communion, bro?
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SpecialOlympian wrote:I don't care or know about your esoteric nonsense Re: Novus Ordo and recognize it as the ink cloud of buzzwords you leave in your wake as you retreat from an argument like a cowardly, racist squid.


Lol, there is nothing esoteric about it. It just proves you don't know what you're talking about.

SpecialOlympian wrote:You are not a Catholic. You do not understand the words of Christ. Like Trump, you have sacrificed nothing and helped no one and yet you expect the world to rearrange itself for your benefit.

I'm an Atheist, and I have a better understanding and regard for Catholicism than you do. Do you even partake of communion, bro?


Understanding the Catholic faith has a bit more depth than WWJD and hippy nuns. Roman Catholicism is thoroughly Neoplatonic and if you knew anything about that you would probably appreciate the pessimistic view of Man instead of shilling for (((diversity))) and corn syrup communism.

Don't get all high and mighty with me because you congratulate yourself for not being a racist. Your world view is based on a dying epistemology. All you have is feels and NowThis videos. I have Plato and Aquinas. You have John Oliver (an import, btw). I have Plotinus and Pius X. You have Bono. I have Augustine. Liberalism is one of many houses built on sand and its bitter collapse will only serve to glorify God.

Vade retro satana! Ad maiorem Dei gloriam! DEUS VULT!
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Original Christianity didn't fight over the "faith vs. works" dichotomy. That is stuff for people who politicize things, or reduce the bible to one-liners. The idea is a very close analogue of what Evola called "contemplation vs. action". Any fair assessment is that either one can be appropriate at different times. Donald seems to have a better understanding of Catholic thinkers than anyone else on this site.

As for Trump, you just get the feeling like he cares. A person who doesn't care and is in it for themselves will say anything, then do another thing. Trump is pretty consistent and that is what draws people (Christians included) to him, more so than anything else he has said or done.
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