[Beren]

Hehe, we are always ready to fight Nazis - call them Clintons or Hitlers or Josephs or you name it...
But it is always up to your kind

Well, I'm glad neither Karadzic nor Mladic is my kind.

Anyways Gavrilo, be careful. I wouldn't like to have CNN International broadcasting you being bombarded. We're almost neighbours you know, and, believe it or not, I'm glad we're not in the same empire any more.

[Bosnjak]

in Bosnia people get social help and insurance.

In Srpska Region people die because of Hunger.



The serbs wanted entierly divided budgets

[Decky]

In Yugoslavia people got everything they needed.

[Bosnjak]

In Yugoslavia, in the Cities you had comparable wage to western countries, today just you get 1/3 if you are lucky.

It was the best functioning Socialist System ever created in History.


There is also a Bosniak region in Serbia, Sandzak, they want also indepence, also the albanian Presevo Region in Serbia they want also independence...


The region needs investment, and economical growth for Jobs. Not further fragmentation.


Serbia wants in EU, also Bosnia, just the Serb part is blocking anything in this direction.

[Bosnjak]

99.8%?? in statistics there is no 100%,

Who observed this "Referendum", this result can never be true, such results just Kim Jong Un has.

considering that 14% are Bosniaks and 2,4 Croats in the Srpska, and many reasonable Serbs this referendum smells.

[Independent_Srpska]

Well, I'm glad neither Karadzic nor Mladic is my kind.

Anyways Gavrilo, be careful. I wouldn't like to have CNN International broadcasting you being bombarded. We're almost neighbours you know, and, believe it or not, I'm glad we're not in the same empire any more.

The pleasure is all mine, trust me.

You are the kind that is up to , told ya.
So, hold your horses Adolfs and Kalays , better be careful.

[Independent_Srpska]

99.8%?? in statistics there is no 100%,

Who observed this "Referendum", this result can never be true, such results just Kim Jong Un has.

considering that 14% are Bosniaks and 2,4 Croats in the Srpska, and many reasonable Serbs this referendum smells.

Excuse me - it was 99.81%.

It was just a lesson in democracy to western occupiers.
Nation was kin to deliver this lesson.
Western Balkans became better place after our referendum.
More freedom we gained.

[Beren]

So, hold your horses Adolfs and Kalays , better be careful.

You love history, right Gavrilo? However, Kállay was removed by Adolf when the Nazis occupied Hungary. Not that I appreciate any of them, unlike you appreciate Karadzic and Mladic I guess.

Are you waiting for the Clintons in office to make some history again, Gavrilo? Did Putin promise you something if you make some history again, Gavrilo?

It was just a lesson in democracy to western occupiers.

Sure Gavrilo, you must be the greatest democrats in world history.

[Bosnjak]

Western Balkans became better place after our referendum.
More freedom we gained.

Does RS not have huge debts?

How will it become a better place, when all the tax income goes to Cypriot Banks? like today

[Independent_Srpska]

You love history, right Gavrilo? However, Kállay was removed by Adolf when the Nazis occupied Hungary. Not that I appreciate any of them, unlike you appreciate Karadzic and Mladic I guess.

Are you waiting for the Clintons in office to make some history again, Gavrilo? Did Putin promise you something if you make some history again, Gavrilo?


Sure Gavrilo, you must be the greatest democrats in world history.

Well, it would be the best for you to push your luck again, my intelligent friend

[Beren]

Well, it would be the best for you to push your luck again, my intelligent friend

What do you actually want with this thread, Gavrilo? Crying back the good old times when international media was full of you?

[Independent_Srpska]

Does RS not have huge debts?

How will it become a better place, when all the tax income goes to Cypriot Banks? like today

It became better place because bih-Muslim hegemonism got defeated , and Western oppression got exposed a bit more.

Citizens of Srpska got closer to freedom and independence.

[Independent_Srpska]

What do you actually want with this thread, Gavrilo? Crying back the good old times when international media was full of you?

You are intelligent indeed.
I trust you can figure out why people post topics.

[Beren]

You are intelligent indeed.
I trust you can figure out why people post topics.

I usually can, but sometimes it's a mystery to solve.

You held a ridiculous referendum about some stupid holiday and 99.81% voted yes. Is that it?

[Independent_Srpska]

Huh, I overestimated you. Sorry .

[Rugoz]

When most Westerners, especially members of the ruling elite, say the word "democracy", they actually mean the word "liberalism", IS. When democracy and liberalism are in conflict with each other (as they are in this case) then liberalism must trump democracy - the Western media and ruling elite will then call democracy "dictatorship", they will call military intervention "peace-making", and they will call foreign manipulation "democracy". They will then bomb some civilians until they get their own way and liberalism - , er, I mean "democracy" is restored. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Statistically democracies have been very nice to each other. But feel free to rant on.

[Beren]

Huh, I overestimated you. Sorry .

Sure, you must have overestimated me while comparing me with Hitler and Stalin. Sorry for not meeting your high expectations!

[Independent_Srpska]

Sure, you must have overestimated me while comparing me with Hitler and Stalin. Sorry for not meeting your high expectations!

It's OK.

FYI, Joseph that broke his teeth on Serbs was Franz, not Stalin of course.

But, I already said sorry for overestimating you.

[Independent_Srpska]

This article is kind of crappy, but it represents biased western approach to this part of the Balkans.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21 ... referendum

Remember the Republika Srpska?

A referendum by Serbs threatens yet more trouble for Bosnia

A banned vote on a separate Bosnian Serb national day has some people talking of war


THE threat of a new war in Bosnia is so strong that “you can feel it in the air,” warns Aleksandar Vucic, the prime minister of neighbouring Serbia. It would take only a spark, he thinks, to ignite it. Some worry that the Republika Srpska, the Serb half of Bosnia, has just struck that spark.

On September 25th, the semi-autonomous region held a referendum on whether to celebrate its own national day on January 9th, the date of its founding in 1992. Bosnia’s constitutional court had declared the vote illegal, ruling that it discriminated against Bosniak Muslims and Croatians. By holding it anyway, Bosnian Serbs have struck a blow against the authority of a weak Bosnian state that has faced the threat of disintegration ever since it was created under the American-brokered Dayton accords more than two decades ago.



Milorad Dodik, the Bosnian Serb leader, has said that the Republika Srpska will vote on secession by 2018, and Sunday’s vote was seen as a trial run. The international body set up to oversee Bosnia’s 1995 peace agreement, which had the power to block the poll, did nothing, though Bosnia’s prosecution service may yet act against Mr Dodik.


Participation in the referendum was surprisingly low, at 55.8%. But a startling 99.8% of those who turned out voted in favour. A vote on secession would tear open the uneasy settlement that ended the Bosnian war. That compromise left the country divided in two. Bosnian Serbs retained their own government with limited autonomy, but gave up their fight for independence and union with Serbia. Bosniak Muslims gave up their aim of a centralised state, which, as the largest of Bosnia’s three peoples (Bosniak, Serb, and Croat), they could have dominated.

Late in 1991, referendums staged by the Bosnian Serbs, and later by Bosniaks and Croats, were important milestones on the road to war. Today the context is different. Unlike Slobodan Milosevic, the former Serbian leader, who backed union with Bosnian Serbs, Mr Vucic opposed this week’s plebiscite. (Mr Vucic, a former ultra-nationalist who served as Mr Milosevic’s propaganda chief, is now a pro-European centrist.) And today, unlike in the 1990s, there is no powerful, Serbian-dominated Yugoslav Army to support the Bosnian Serbs if they vote for independence. Western countries opposed the referendum, and on September 20th the European Union gave a green light to allowing Bosnia’s membership application to proceed. By contrast Vladimir Putin, Russia’s leader, egged on Mr Dodik, receiving him in Moscow on September 22nd.

Mr Putin’s backing for Bosnian Serb separatism is part of his strategy of sowing chaos in the EU, which has subjected Russia to sanctions over its intervention in Ukraine. For Mr Dodik the referendum, and the support from Mr Putin, are a means of boosting his waning popularity; he faces local elections on October 2nd. Bosniak politicians, too, have benefited by opposing the vote. Politically, the referendum has been good for everyone.

The risk is that it will be bad for the country. Bosnia is a weak and dysfunctional state, and staging the referendum in defiance of the constitutional court was a blow to its credibility. Nevertheless, war is unlikely to be the outcome. Most Bosnians are concerned about jobs, education and healthcare. Fanning the flames of nationalism, on either side, does nothing to create jobs or stop doctors emigrating for better salaries elsewhere. “I’m extremely sceptical that this will open the way to secession,” says James Ker-Lindsay, a Balkans specialist at the London School of Economics. Kosovo Serbs also voted for independence in 2012, he notes, in a poll which was ignored and has since been forgotten. Even in the unlikely case that Republika Srpska could secede without a war it would be a tiny, poor and isolated country divided into two physically unconnected enclaves. Even the most patriotic of the 99.8% of voters who supported celebrating the country’s national day would not welcome that.

[Bosnjak]

good luck South-Ossetia.