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Can we at least all agree that pornstars are big hoes?

Also women lie about being sexualy harassed or raped. We don't know if any of those Trump allegations can be true. Many people have already labeled him guilty before even court date has been set. All because they don't want to see him being president. Shills of the media and establishment all you are.
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Albert wrote:Can we at least all agree that pornstars are big hoes?

What do I care if a woman is a "big hoe". That doesn't mean they don't have a right to be sexually harassed.

Also nice try. Only one Trump accuser is a porn star. There are ten of them.

Also women lie about being sexualy harassed or raped.

Very rarely.

We don't know if any of those Trump allegations can be true. Many people have already labeled him guilty before even court date has been set.

It's going to be a pretty slam dunk case since he literally bragged about sexually assaulting women.

All because they don't want to see him being president. Shills of the media and establishment all you are.

So are the women accusing Bill Clinton also lying just because they don't want to see HRC in office?
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LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX wrote:What do I care if a woman is a "big hoe". That doesn't mean they don't have a right to be sexually harassed.

Also nice try. Only one Trump accuser is a porn star. There are ten of them.
I care because I don't want to date ho bags. I don't want to give women the impression that it's okay to be a whore and then date guys who want a decent girl.

Very rarely.
More often then you think.

It's going to be a pretty slam dunk case since he literally bragged about sexually assaulting women.
Sexual Assult = Rape in my mind. I don't think he has been accused of rape aside from that 13 year old girl one.

So are the women accusing Bill Clinton also lying just because they don't want to see HRC in office?
Women do it different reasons, some for money, revenge or whatever. I'm not saying it is not true or not. I'm just saying there has been cases where women just made up complete bullshit.

And I was saying it's people like you who are being unfair to Trump. And already label him guilty yet it's not even proven that he is.
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Albert wrote:I care because I don't want to date ho bags. I don't want to give women the impression that it's okay to be a whore and then date guys who want a decent girl.

Great. That has nothing to do with the context of what I was saying though, which is that for the purposes of a sexual harassment or assault case, who the victim chooses to have sex with has nothing to do with whether she was harassed or assaulted.

Sexual Assult = Rape in my mind. I don't think he has been accused of rape aside from that 13 year old girl one.

Sexual assault is also groping. "Grab her by the pussy" and all.

Women do it different reasons, some for money, revenge or whatever. I'm not saying it is not true or not. I'm just saying there has been cases where women just made up complete bullshit.

Yeah, and I'm asking whether you believe that Clinton's accusers are making it up to, or if you only see made up accusations when it's politically convenient.
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LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX wrote:Great. That has nothing to do with the context of what I was saying though, which is that for the purposes of a sexual harassment or assault case, who the victim chooses to have sex with has nothing to do with whether she was harassed or assaulted.
I think in this case it does. If she gets paid to have sex. It's not unreasonable that a person might see nothing wrong to offer her money to have sex. Similarly how person would offer a stripper money for sex. You are in same (morally corrupt) ballpark anyhow, it is just a matter of what base you want to go to.

Sexual assault is also groping. "Grab her by the pussy" and all.
Yes. The definition of sexual assult has broadened to include groping and whatnot as sexual assult.

Yeah, and I'm asking whether you believe that Clinton's accusers are making it up to, or if you only see made up accusations when it's politically convenient.
Clinton is innocent before proven guilty. So I don't think he is guilty, Im more reasonable then libercucks thank you very much.

As for women accusing him, I won't be surprised to find out that all of them are bullshitting. And this is just a PR stunt to defame Clintons.
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Albert wrote:I think in this case it does. If she gets paid to have sex. It's not unreasonable that a person might see nothing wrong to offer her money to have sex. Similarly how person would offer a stripper money for sex. You are in same (morally corrupt) ballpark anyhow, it is just a matter of what base you want to go to.

No, I'm pretty sure a woman has agency over her own body, even those in sex work.

Yes. The definition of sexual assult has broadened to include groping and whatnot as sexual assult.

Ok. Would you prefer the term sexual abuse? It makes no difference to me. Or we could just call him the Groper in Chief.

Clinton is innocent before proven guilty. So I don't think he is guilty, Im more reasonable then libercucks thank you very much.

As for women accusing him, I won't be surprised to find out that all of them are bullshitting. And this is just a PR stunt to defame Clintons.

At least you're consistant then? Because I personally don't think those women are lying, although the one that thinks that Hillary was trying to threaten her to keep her quiet seems like she misinterpreted Hillary. I just don't see why that should affect Hillary. I absolutely think that Clinton deserves whatever punishment comes to him, but the problem is that the women aren't pursuing it. Rather just try to punish his wife, which is fucked up but people deal with sexual assault in different ways.
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LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX wrote:No, I'm pretty sure a woman has agency over her own body, even those in sex work.
The pornwoman's story is that Trump sexually abused her based on his lewd comments of offering her money for sex. That is not sexual harassment. Rude at best. But expected if you are in that type of business.

Ok. Would you prefer the term sexual abuse? It makes no difference to me. Or we could just call him the Groper in Chief.
He only said those things, there is no proof of him acting upon it. In fact if you see the full video

1:50 he meets the woman, he does not grab her vg. So is it a crime to talk behind someone's back now?


At least you're consistant then? Because I personally don't think those women are lying, although the one that thinks that Hillary was trying to threaten her to keep her quiet seems like she misinterpreted Hillary. I just don't see why that should affect Hillary. I absolutely think that Clinton deserves whatever punishment comes to him, but the problem is that the women aren't pursuing it. Rather just try to punish his wife, which is fucked up but people deal with sexual assault in different ways.
Very noble of you.
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Porn Stars have a lot worse troubles shaking the bad image that comes with the career, especially when it's over, than weather or not someone propositioned them during their sexcentric career.

I bet many of these Clinton supporters are same kind of people Bree Olson is discussing here. "Oh how dare he!", but if Bree Olson applied for a job they were offering, they'd just put her application aside, because Porn Star, and move on.
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Porn Stars have a lot worse troubles shaking the bad image that comes with the career, especially when it's over, than weather or not someone propositioned them.
All I see is a ho that does not want to face the consequences of her actions and take responsibility for it. (In that video)

Yet she will probably excommunicate Trump for lewd comments. Stuff that she does in public for everyone to see.
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Albert wrote:The pornwoman's story is that Trump sexually abused her based on his lewd comments of offering her money for sex. That is not sexual harassment. Rude at best. But expected if you are in that type of business.

Nah, actually, in a court of law they don't take into account whether she's a porn star.

Also, the storyline goes like this: she rejects him through a surrogate; then she rejects him asking her for dinner; then she rejects him after he says something to the effect of what's it going to take; then she rejects the explicit offer of $10k; then she rejected his offer of using his private jet.

That's pretty obviously sexual harassment.

He only said those things, there is no proof of him acting upon it.

Proof is not a legal word. The word you're looking for is evidence. There is plenty of evidence that points to him being a serial harasser and groper of women, including the hot mic of him saying as such. He said it himself. Do you not believe him when he speaks in private to another man? So how can you believe him when he speaks in public to everybody?

Very noble of you.

Maybe I just want the women in my family to be believed if they are ever sexually abused, harassed, assaulted, or anything of that nature.

Donald wrote:Attractive women should develop strategies for avoiding such situations in the first place.

Maybe men should just stop being so rapey.

Albert wrote:Oh no, you just disturbed the dan of white knighthood. I hope you are prepared for charging lances coming your way now.

The size of your edge:

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LV-GUCCI-PRADA-FLEX wrote:Nah, actually, in a court of law they don't take into account whether she's a porn star.
How do you know? If they don't they should.

Also, the storyline goes like this: she rejects him through a surrogate; then she rejects him asking her for dinner; then she rejects him after he says something to the effect of what's it going to take; then she rejects the explicit offer of $10k; then she rejected his offer of using his private jet.

That's pretty obviously sexual harassment
That is not sexual harassment. Perhaps annoying at best. If this is sexual harassment then how do you deferentiate between perusing a girl and harassing her? By that standard many guys can go to jail.

Proof is not a legal word. The word you're looking for is evidence. There is plenty of evidence that points to him being a serial harasser and groper of women, including the hot mic of him saying as such. He said it himself. Do you not believe him when he speaks in private to another man? So how can you believe him when he speaks in public to everybody?
Well, good point.

Maybe I just want the women in my family to be believed if they are ever sexually abused, harassed, assaulted, or anything of that nature.
I want that as well, but women lie bro. As an investigator or third party it would be nice if people were considered of that.

Maybe men should just stop being so rapey.
Really?
Donald wrote:
The white knighthood is no match for the thot patrol.
I learned something new today.

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Albert wrote:How do you know? If they don't they should.

They probably do subconsciously or even overtly sometimes but they are not supposed to do it.

That is not sexual harassment. Perhaps annoying at best. If this is sexual harassment then how do you deferentiate between perusing a girl and harassing her? By that standard many guys can go to jail.

Hint: women don't like having to turn down multiple solicitations for money in exchange for sex, even porn stars. Her saying no is normal. Her saying no five times is harassment. The woman doesn't even have to give in, the harasser gets off on demeaning her.



I want that as well, but women lie bro. As an investigator or third party it would be nice if people were considered of that.

There have been cases where individual women have lied, but they are few and not representative, and for every one woman that lies, thousands don't report at all for fear of not being believed or social stigma or fear of repercussions from their attacker, family, or friends.

Call me a white knight now if you want, these are just facts.

Really?

Who has control over whether a man rapes a woman, the man or the woman? So start with the men, because they are the ones doing the raping itself. Plus if you're going to cast manhood in this central role then let men take responsibility for their actions.

Also would like to note that children are also often sexually harassed, raped, and groped, attractiveness has nothing to do with it. Paraphilias mean you don't have the same logic for doing things as people who do not have a sexual disorder. It's ridiculous for Donald to even make that dull comment.
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