Rugoz wrote:Transgender people don't hurt anyone with their behavior and whether they want a cure or not is really their business and not yours.
I think they do. I think they're an attention suck that distracts from far more significant social problems. They are fouling our legislatures, courts and media with issues that are irrelevant to 99% of the population. I'd rather they just cloister themselves in a little sub-culture and leave the rest of us alone.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:It is an issue because by normalising it and trying to make it taboo to even think about these conditions as a disorder slows down or potentially even prevents us from coming up with effective treatments or cures.
It can't be fixed, so they are trying to argue that the misery of their outlier existence is because they are not "accepted" as "normal." However, by definition they are not normal. They are "abnormal," "deviant" or "outlier" by definition.
Know it all wrote:It's the political correct thing to do to believe that gay/lesbian/transsexual people etc are perfectly natural. Well of course they are, but so are pedophiles.
And racists. Racism is innate and is part of Darwinian sexual selection. We study social preference behavior in other species all the time. However, it becomes moralized and made wrong when we study it in human beings. Desegregation was a success legally, but socially the notion of integration was a colossal failure. Blacks generally don't like to hang out with whites socially. They create their own sub-cultures, music genres, fashions, etc. There is simply no changing that. Trying to get people to embrace multi-culturalism is the same problem. Not everybody wants to be exposed to people unlike themselves. I know a number of gay people, but I don't associate with any of them, and that is a mutual preference.
Know it all wrote:The difference is that society has chosen to accept certain perversions, but not others.
Well, certain segments in the media/propaganda apparatus and the government have chosen, and presumed to choose for all of us. That is why people hate the Paul Ryans and Chuck Schumers of the world more than they hate minorities or freaks.
Know it all wrote:What annoys me is liberals normalizing something that is not normal
Well to a larger extent what they've succeeded in doing is rendering themselves abnormal, and they innoculate themselves from shame by making themselves feel like they are superior to others while simultaneously and non-intuitively championing equality. Then, they are puzzled at the election of someone like Donald Trump--a guy who likes hot women.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:When I talk about treatment/cure I'm not referring to surgery (the efficacy of which has yet to be shown), but either preventing the condition from arising in the first place or treating the erroneous conviction.
Indeed. This has more to do with people in the medical industry whoring themselves out to social movements to make a buck and then trying to throw a veneer of "science" on whatever their latest huckster routine might be.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:In Australia a court has recently allowed a 16 year old to remove her breasts and the more we advance the normalisation of this condition, the less authorities, physicians and society at large will have concerns about "catching them early".
As I've said repeatedly, this is because there is more money to be made by the medical scam in not solving problems than solving them. Think of how many PET scans doctors do after they've discovered someone has cancer rather than before hand. Drugs that cure disease do not make as much money as drugs that treat symptoms. So if you've got a great Hepatitis C drug that cures the disease, that's not so good for your stock price.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:The correct way to look at this, in my view, is that some biological processes go wrong and lead to pathological behaviours and ideas.
Exactly. The danger is that science gets perverted, because the medical profession isn't dedicated to treating people. If you considered a rat-maze experiment and viewed doctors as rats dispensing treats to themselves, you've got a pretty good picture of what the healthcare system has become. Asking everybody to consider transgendered people as normal is like asking everyone to pretend that people with Down Syndrome are great at abstract math, or that autistics are very sociable. The media goes along with this, because the government pays them to do so. They end up feeling superior, because they make oodles of cash shilling government propaganda.
AFAIK wrote:The correct way to look at this, in my view, is that some biological processes go wrong and lead to pathological behaviours and ideas.
Maybe that's what these medical freaks are doing: it's a back door eugenics program.
Thompson_NCL wrote:No, you cannot. You can't change chromosomes, bone structure, muscle density etc. At best you can stick some artificial breasts onto a man, mutilate his genitals and stick him in a dress. That does not a woman make.
I don't want to get too far off topic, but I think transgender is probably a mental illness derived from a congenital defect to develop cis-gendered biologically. What's closer to a mental illness is the modern left. What the left wants is a world without people like Mark Dice laughing at them, but Mark Dice is pointing out stuff that puts the current left in juxtaposition to the recent left.
Man Wins Women's Weightlifting CompetitionSo how do you square the circle with this sort of thing? Men are stronger than women, so we need to create Title IX. Then, a man decides he's a woman, must be accepted, and wins the medal? One chick runner up is bummed, the other realizes how ridiculous our society has become. But if you can just arbitrarily change your gender, why can't you arbitrarily change your age or your race? People have plastic surgery all the time to look younger. Can Suzanne Sommers come out of the closet as 35 instead of 70+? Can I get admitted to Harvard as a minority and then get SBA small business loans, because I've decided I'm black and I'm really getting jiggy with it even though I'm as white as the wind-driven snow?
Even Bill O'Reilly is having trouble pretending anymore:
Bill O'Reilly Mocks Congresswoman Maxine Waters "James Brown Wig" Maxine Waters responded by saying she "would not be intimidated." Bill O'Reilly laughed at her wig (can we acknowledge that black people wear wigs a lot?). He didn't intimidate her.
Cultural marxism has jumped the shark here...
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden