[Zionist Nationalist]

Well you talk like You live in Russia and you think everything is fine there(Many Russians are brainwashed to think like this nowadays) when infact its more close to an another catastrophe
and yes Im posting from Israel

[ArtAllm]

Well you talk like You live in Russia and you think everything is fine there(Many Russians are brainwashed to think like this nowadays) when infact its more close to an another catastrophe
and yes Im posting from Israel

So you are a Russian Jew that lives on the ethnically cleansed Palestinian land, and you have the nerve to talk about "western countries"?

Israel is neither a western liberal democracy, nor a self sufficient country.
Without the money of American and German tax payers and imported or stolen western know-how Israel would be just another underdeveloped oriental country, and Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel would not even miss the blessings of western civilisation. And these guys, that are similar to backward Muslims, are the most rapidly growing community in Israel.

Israel has no open boarders, it has a big wall, it has "Jews-Only" migration and citizenship laws, and a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew cannot be registred in Israel.

Any Jew in any western country would whine and cry "racism" if any western country had migration and citizenship laws, similar to Israel, and if there was no institution of civil marriage in Western countries.

What to Russia, it is more western, than Israel, because it has an institution of civil marriage, and because the Russian citizenship is not restricted to Russian Orthodox Christians. Everybody can become a Russian in Russia, and get Russian citizenship, any Jew can call himself a Russian in Russia, marry in Russia a Muslim and this civil marriage will be registered in Russia, no problems with that.

In Israel, only a Rabbi can decide who is a Jew, and therefore Israel is a semi-Theocracy, not a democracy.

If a Jewish woman has some Russian blood, she cannot marry a Cohen in Israel:

Irina Plotnikov cannot marry the man she loves, Shmuel Cohen, even though she is Jewish according to halakha (Jewish religious law). A rabbinic court in Jerusalem ruled recently that even though Plotnikov is Jewish, she is not eligible to marry a Cohen since her father is not Jewish.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/not-jewish-enoug ... n-1.150715

What democracy do you have in Israel? Well, Jews can vote and select a leader according to his notions of what is good for Jews, how should Jews "redeem" the land that was "given" to them by their personal tribal God.

Russian Jews, like Avigdor Lieberman or Avigdor Eskin, would be imprisoned in any western country and even in Russia, if they advocated for Russians what these guys are advocating for Jews in Israel.

What to the corruption in Russia - well, Putin imprisoned the biggest corrupt oligarchs, like Mikhail Khodorkovsky, that were stealing what belonged to all Russians, but the controlled media and politicians in the West whined about it.

So how can Putin fight corruption and how can Russia be a prosperous country, if the controlled West punishes Putin for fighting corruption, and if Russia is under sanctions?

What would be the situation in Israel, if Western countries interfered in the internal politics of Israel and officially imposed sanctions against Israel?

I guess that Israel would not survive the pressure, even today many Israelis abandon Israel and live in Germany, a country that they call "the land of Holocaust".

How bad must the situation in Israel be if Israelis prefer to live in Germany?



Russia survived all pressure and all sanctions, and today Putin has more support of the Russian people, than previously.

It seems that you just irrationally hate the Russian people and cannot see the Russian reality and understand the Russian soul.

[Zionist Nationalist]

We were talking about Russia not Israel

did I hurt your feelings by saying the truth abour Russia? I bet you are some Russian Putin fan living in Germany

[ArtAllm]

I bet you are some Russian Putin fan living in Germany

No, I never lived in Russia and I am not a Putin fan. Putin is also a puppet of Zionists, he is promoting the old Soviet mythology too much. He signed laws that limit the freedom of speech and the freedom of historical research in Russia.

His main propagandists are people with double loyalty, like Vladimir Solovyov, Alexander Gordon, Yevgeny Satanovsky, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, etc.
These guys are hugely over-represented in the propaganda apparatus of the RF. And they are de facto goal keepers. And the constant guests in the Talk Shows of Solovyov are radical Israelis, like Avigdor Eskin.

Satanovsky called Merkel "Reichskanzler of Europe", they are promoting the old Soviet "antifascist propaganda", the Russian people are lied to about the real political situation in Western countries, Russians get the impression that "them Nazis" are running the USA and EU.

The pro-Israeli propaganda apparatus of Putin never mentions the role of Zionism in the political landscape of Western countries. In this regard Putin's Russia is more dishonest than it was the case with the former Soviet Union: this country openly talked about the influence of "international Zionism" and voted for an UNO-Resolution that condemned Zionism as a form of racism.

In today RF this topic is an absolute taboo, due to Putin, who "fights anti-Semitism".

So Putin is playing a double play, maybe because he is not bright enough, maybe he is really biased because of his Soviet biography and Jewish neighbours, maybe he is just afraid...

De facto, the Russians and the Western people are pitted against each others, the propagandists in the West are instigating hate against Russian Christians, and the propagandists in Russia are instigating hate against Western Christians.

But the real reason of the tensions between Russia and the West are never mentioned neither in Russia, nor in Western countries.

In any case, radical Zionists love Putin very much, and that speaks volumes.

“When he was a young child, he grew up in a very poor family. His parents were always out at work. He was fortunate that the next door neighbor was a Hasidic Jewish family, and they always made sure to invite him over,” Lazar explained. “
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Putin’s Jewish connection was not an anomaly limited to his childhood memories. In 2005, when Putin made an official visit to Israel, he visited his high-school teacher, Mina Yuditskaya Berliner, who lived in Tel Aviv. He even bought her an apartment in the city when he heard she was living in poor conditions.
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When Putin met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in September to discuss the developing situation in Syria, the meeting produced positive results, with Putin expressing his strong connection with Israel.
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In 2014, Putin was one of the few political leaders who supported Israel’s Operation Protective Edge, saying at a meeting with representatives of the Rabbinical Center of Europe to fight anti-Semitism and xenophobia, “I support Israel’s battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected.”
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Read more at https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/5517 ... BOKpXYW.99

What a BS! Soviet people had to work, there was always enough work for everybody, nobody was "out of work", and everybody was equally poor.

"When he was a young child".... How many prominent leaders can tell a similar story? Stalin was surrounded by "kind Jews" in his childhood, the same with Churchill and other leaders, that later promoted the Jewish agenda.

Is this just a coincidence, or are Jews grooming some people and promote them?



I cannot understand why some Zionists hate Putin or Trump.

These guys are de facto "Israel firsters", but it seems that no leader of no country, even if he is slavishly loyal to Israel, can satisfy the demands of Zionists, and there is no gratitude...

[Socialcynic]

It's possible America could collapse one day, but I doubt in my lifetime. I think within the next four years the citizens on sides of all current parties will try and start a revolution, but fail. It's also possible that within the next eight years America will form more political parties that it's citizens has to choose from when it comes time for election. Will these parties be able to outvote the Republicans and Democrates? I don't know. That's a good question. Maybe someone should give some inquiry on that question.

[ArtAllm]

It's possible America could collapse one day, but I doubt in my lifetime.

Did anybody expect in 1982 that there would be no Soviet Union ten years later?

If somebody said in 1982 that there will be no Soviet Union in 1992 he would have been regarded as an insane person.

Nobody could imagine that, no experts, no friends of the SU, and no enemies!

[Zionist Nationalist]

There are plenty of people who predicted the soviet collapse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictio ... viet_Union

[InternetDominus]

Historically, all empires have collapsed. The US will be no different.

[MememyselfandIJK]

America will be fine (Probably), but it will be a close one.

On one hand, although Trump is only a single person, but he has already had the worst 100 days in office
(http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/04/william_henry_harrison_s_first_100_days_vs_trump_s.html) and he embodies a potentially toxic stew of neo-fascist and reactionary beliefs.

On the other hand, America is a stable democracy and will probably live to see the next world era. It is still growing and increasing in ability, although it is still in a relative decline. Many people seem to be comparing America to Ancient Rome, but Imperial Spain may be a better analogy.

Imperial Spain once had an empire that rivaled the British Empire of the 1920s. It possessed much of the Americas and at its heights also controlled the Netherlands, Holy Roman Empire (now Germany), and Italy. However, despite its vast wealth, it kept spending itself into a deficit and simply could not keep up with rising powers such as Britain. Like the US of the future, Spain didn't loose its power overnight, but did loose much of its authority after the Spanish Armada (potentially analogous to Iraq?). Today, most probably like the US of the far future, the state still exists, but the state of affairs is so delicate that a widespread conflict or civil unrest could lead to its fall. Likewise the US will probably limp through the 21st century and be a side player in the 22nd and the 23rd, eventually falling when it gets pushed too hard, probably around 2275 to 2400.

The point is that all civilizations must fall, it is just a matter of whether it falls hard, or gets the privilege (or torment) of a slow steady decline, even if it is simply a matter of failing to keep up with other counties. Some people on the left warn of a Fascist relapse and a chaotic, unexpected plummet, and do have some reason to back up the conclusion, the chances of this happening are negligible as long as Americans keep protesting, question Trump at every turn, and generally keep their eyes open.

[stephen50right]

Since the US survived the presidential malignancy called Obama for 8 years, we can survive anything.

Sorry haters, no collapse, especially with President Trump and conservative leadership now in charge.

[quetzalcoatl]

Since the US survived the presidential malignancy called Obama for 8 years, we can survive anything.

Sorry haters, no collapse, especially with President Trump and conservative leadership now in charge.

Trump is not the cancer, he is merely the fly buzzing around the dead corpse.

"A dog starved at his master's gate
Predicts the ruin of the state."

Yes, Obama was a malignancy - how perceptive! Yet Trump is no 'conservative.' Conservatives yearn for stability and peace, not chaos and destruction.

[stephen50right]

Trump is not the cancer, he is merely the fly buzzing around the dead corpse.

"A dog starved at his master's gate
Predicts the ruin of the state."

Yes, Obama was a malignancy - how perceptive! Yet Trump is no 'conservative.' Conservatives yearn for stability and peace, not chaos and destruction.

Perhaps you didn't notice the VERY conservative Supreme Court justice who was recently nominated by Trump and is now sitting on the bench.

The rest...the fact is that Trump still needs to schmooze Democrats and Rhinos in Congress on a number of issues in order to pass legislation.

[Oxymandias]

No. But it would be good for the Middle East so I would like it to happen.

However I also like Americans so I just want America to quietly collapse and all the states to be independent from one another and for the states to never unionize. I also want them to be weak. So then we would get weak America and the Middle East can do whatever it fucking wants.

[hopingforchange]

America as a nation will not collapse, As far as I can see individual states are resisting the instability of the present administration, however it is more than possible that the political landscape will change in a profound way , US citizens voted for that change by voting for an outsider such as the actual president, sadly the man is not worthy of their vote. Perhaps a more centrist candidate may come forward next time.

[ArtAllm]

America as a nation will not collapse, As far as I can see individual states are resisting the instability of the present administration, however it is more than possible that the political landscape will change in a profound way , US citizens voted for that change by voting for an outsider such as the actual president, sadly the man is not worthy of their vote. Perhaps a more centrist candidate may come forward next time.

The stability of any country is based on the moral authority of the ruling elite.

In ancient states the ruling elite and their shamans were responsible for the communication with the Gods, the shamans were responsible for rain.

If there was no rain for a couple of years, the people rebelled and killed their leaders, because they did not believe in the special abilities of their ruling elite any more.

Wenn the "American" MSM is promoting the narrative, that exposing the corruption of the ruling elite is tantamount to "destabilising America", then they are digging their own grave.

"American deplorables" are so fed up with "fake news", the ruling elite lost any credibility, they cannot provide "rain" any more, the "shamans" from the MSM lost their connection to the Gods, America is in decline, the "deplorables" cannot be duped by the MSM any more, and that are the signs of a pending collapse.

The attacks on the freedom of speech and on historical monuments in he USA is another sign of the pending collapse.

Some fools still believe that higher military spending in the USA can prevent this country from collapse. But we could see the collapse of the Soviet Union, and this collapse was due to the fact, that the ruling elite there lost any credibility, and despite of high military spending, the total control of the media, the repression of any descent, the total surveillance, the SU collapsed due to an internal crisis.

[hopingforchange]

With all due respect , though the American constitution seems to provide safe guards in the event of a corrupt leader, the electoral process has perhaps gone haywire, thus the present uncomfortable situation , and past difficulties. Correct me if I am wrong, the presidential candidates are funded by powerful lobbies and companies. If this is so , how can the elected persons not be biased towards the entities who funded them ? Is it not possible to clean up this process ? For instance having a ceiling on spending for the campaigns and forbidding huge donations from companies etc. Or is this totally unrealistic to think so ?

[Hong Wu]

America is lucky in that the people in the country who want it to collapse happen to not know how to fight. The same might not be said for Europe at the rates things are going.

[Thomasmariel]

Yes it will, just like all other nations and capitalist structures. And thank God the day that that happens

[Negotiator]

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[Saeko]

"The Republic will not fall in my lifetime."

-Roman peasant circa 40 BC.