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Stormsmith wrote:No. He was fired by Trump. Trump wanted him to stop investigating Flynn. Comey wouldn't. Trump fired Comey, and said so unequivocally.


He stated he fired him in relation to the Russia Probe, which was also in the report as well. The report detailed how he had mishandled both investigations, had "No confidence" amoungst his subordinates and recommended he be "strongly reprimanded", which the AG then recommended on top that he be fired.

Yes he did say that mishandling of Flynn was part of his final decision, however the official letter indicates this was simply the "breaking point" for Trump, as he cites the previous two reports strongly.

To interpret it as anything but "the final straw for Trump himself" is incorrect. Others would have fired him earlier. In fact Clinton probably would have fired him immediately if she had won in November.

Trump was actually too lenient on him and clearly tried to make it work with him in the role. The Democrats are attempting a coup on the basis of a botched attempt by Trump to soothe things over and help Comey keep his job.
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Drlee wrote:Once Trump's poll numbers hit the low 30's a delegation will ask him to "retire".

I hope he doesn't.

I hope he stays in there too, but for different reasons. I don't think the country is going to swing to the Democrats. We're heading for a crack up, and that's what needs to happen. Every day that Trump is president, the media's credbility takes a beating. It's really fun to watch. The MSM has always been liberal, but they've finally revealed themselves, with a little help from WikiLeaks. It's gotten so funny that it's hard to tell if the media controls the Democrats or the Democrats control the media. Neither of them seem able to control themselves.
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I also feel like a break up is possible, and possibly healthy at this point but there's all sorts of things that work against it.

One of the less obvious issues that crossed my mind recently is that the left doesn't really want conservatives gone (although they say they do), they want them under their control. For example, environmentalism, Christianity, these are things they want a controlling influence over. If America splits up, they are basically giving up on ever having such control. And control seems really, really important to them for reasons I won't elaborate upon :excited:

What this means is that before the liberals start jumping ship, they need to realize just how bad their chances of retaking the federal government are. This will at a minimum require Trump's re-election and it might even require for a conservative to win after Trump. This latter event isn't impossible if, in 7.5 years, the MSM is dead and liberals have grown even more crazy and deliberately out of touch with what a majority of the electoral college wants.
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I swear people, Trump firing Comey had nothing to do with Comey giving testimony the week before I mean some very smart guys recommended it oh no wait Comey is a grandstander uh actually Trump was always going to fire Comey anyway he hated that guy-

Uh... can we talk about Hillary and the election again?

What this means is that before the liberals start jumping ship, they need to realize just how bad their chances of retaking the federal government are. This will at a minimum require Trump's re-election and it might even require for a conservative to win after Trump. This latter event isn't impossible if, in 7.5 years, the MSM is dead and liberals have grown even more crazy and deliberately out of touch with what a majority of the electoral college wants.


"Hmm, I just painted myself into a corner again. How do I say liberals are out of touch when daddy lost the popular vote by 3 million? I know, this will make me sound smart."
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deliberately out of touch with what a majority of the electoral college wants.


They're not the majority of voters. And we know very well what they want. A lean, reactionary, racist, homophobic, sexist, corporatist and imperialist USA. With the separation between religion and state totally ended because they're Christian fundamentalists too.
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Fox news is threatening to let hannity go because he won't let a certain story go after speaking with megauploads founder. kim dot com is travelling to the US to be interviewed by hannity and testify in federal court that Seth was DNC leaker (seth and kim were working together on a media project), Seth Rich link to molesta Podesta found in wikileaks email dump released last year, molesta personally knew the Dr who received him in hospital the day he was shot.

Stay tooned. :excited:
#14807834
Another reason the left can't let conservatives go lightly is they need that territory, that open market and most of all, they need to play white working class people against brown working class people. If they lost that ability, the fact that the brown working class hates them at least as much as the white working class would come home to roost pretty fast.

So before they quit they need to realize just how hopeless things are for them electorally. This is basically related to how quickly the MSM dies since that is the brain of the beast, no one takes the college snowflakes seriously.
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Kim wants his prison terms and the takedown of Megaupload to become part of a larger political dialogue, I think it would be a mistake to give him that.

I've seen the shill posts, "Megaupload was really about fighting the establishment", no, not really. If you're only fighting the establishment up to the point where they stop you from getting a free movie then that's not the same thing.
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Ter wrote:Kim Dot Com has been fighting extradition to the US since several years. I doubt he will fly over to the US voluntarily.


He has in fact volunteered to do so.

He is stating that Seth Rich contacted him in relation to setting up a branch of The Internet Party, under the pseudonym of "Panda". He was unaware of the identity of "Panda" at the time the communications took place, but of cause he was aware of the fact that Panda was in the DNC, was unhappy with the DNC's machinations, and was leaking important information on Hillary Clinton to Wikileaks in 2015.

His formal statement:
https://citizenwells.com/2017/05/23/may ... e-money-i/

Notice how the most pertinent and important information, concerning the "Panda" nickname contained in the statement was not reported in any MSM report about this, excepting the Murdoch news organisations(Fox News and locally News.com.au).

Edit:
Julian Assange appeared to respond on Twitter to the latest developments with the usual "We don't reveal sources" statement. However he also added a cryptic "Sometimes sources will talk to others" statement.
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Assange and Kim Dot Com: two on the level dudes who are definitely not attention whores.

The whole panda thing is bullshit Reddit ~internet detective~ work on par with pizzagate, so of course colliric treats this with all the credulity he would give to an angel descending from heaven to hand down the word of God.
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One of my usual talking points is that to conservatives, the nation is a group, to liberals, it's imaginary.

So if Obama or whoever else uses a wall around their house, or their meeting, or whatever, it's not hypocrisy because of course people protect themselves and their territory. But this doesn't apply to nations in their mind because nations are not a set of people, they are just economic zones. Throw in some socialism/hatred of capitalism and you have them wanting to break up the economic zone as well but they haven't gotten that far yet. It seems like certain groups will ruin certain countries before they can make them even more vulnerable.

I would be interested to hear a different theory regarding why individuals or groups within a country can build/use walls but countries can't.
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Throw in some socialism/hatred of capitalism and you have them wanting to break up the economic zone as well but they haven't gotten that far yet. It seems like certain groups will ruin certain countries before they can make them even more vulnerable.


This is simply not true. The most liberal countries in the world ARE capitalist. And it is not the "liberals" who want to break up the economic zone it is the conservatives. Unless I misunderstand what you are trying to say, I am interested in how you came to these conclusions.
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