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noir wrote:To whom the land belongs to? The Jews fought for their homeland because it's the ancestral land, the Sunni muslims who infiltrated the land and today call themselves "Palestinians", a term they rejected only few generations ago, fight to convert the Jewish homeland to Islamic. There was a time when the West knew what the war is all about but the Arab propaganda who themselves practice apartheid turn the root cause on its head. Today they presumably fight for "human rights" while appropriating its Jewish biblical heritage to their own (recent UNESCO vote). There is no point to exasperate with this debate, finally the jihad is striking the west as well. Just as during the Nazis, Israel is the canary in the coal mine.

Well the Trump of God and all conservative Christians in American are on the side of Israel. I am suspect about the position of liberal Christians and the Roman Catholics, because they seem to be all over the map, with many of them favoring a two state solution. They apparently are ignorant of the total history.

As you point out, they have bought in to the idea that it is a human rights issue and parrot the so-called Palestinians are being abused people. This is the position of former President Carter, a liberal Christian. But we conservative Christians know God will never accept that as a permanent solution. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

HalleluYah
Praise the Lord
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Tailz wrote:I personally think BDS is exaggerating their successful impact on Sodastream.


SodaStream admits bowing to boycott pressure

Zionist Nationalist wrote:I dont care about the international law.


Yes, we're well aware how much zionists think they're superior and above all laws.

Still, the house belonged to Palestinians in Palestinian territory. The family were forced to leave, physically, to make way for zionist lebensraum.
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noir wrote:There are many Muslims in America, what will bring the future?

I believe many of those are Muslims in name only. Most have not been radicalized to believe in extreme jihadist ideas like many of those Muslims in the Middle East. I hope our intelligence people are monitoring the teachings of the leaders in the Mosques for any radical violent ideas. Please wish us good luck and for God to bless the USA. Also pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Those so-called Palestinians who claim the land as their own are actually squatters on Land that God had given to Israel many centuries before the Romans drove most if not all of the Israelites out and renamed the land in an attempt to erase the name of Israel from history. However, God has brought many of His people back to their land just as He said he would do in these last days. The Jews still have much land that God wants them to retake for Israel for the rest of his people. I am sure it will happen even though I may not live long enough to see that day.

HalleluYah
Praise the Lord
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BDS is jihad. Many of them are western educated but that's makes them even more dangerous. It help them to dupe the general public opinion with positive terms like human rights, racism etc.
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noir wrote:BDS is jihad. Many of them are western educated but that's makes them even more dangerous. It help them to dupe the general public opinion with positive terms like human rights, racism etc.

The liberals have basically taken over most of the big universities here. That is a big problem for us, because they are taught that those that have a different political view than the propaganda they receive are either racist or have some sort of mental phobia that they must fight against by protesting and even rioting and causing property damage, if necessary, to allow them to get their way. They have become like spoiled children that are used to getting their way by having a temper tantrum.
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noir wrote:There are many Muslims in America, what will bring the future?


Less than 1% of the population are really scary to bizarre hasbarists. :lol:

Still, those who are against the occupation and/or support BDS are often Christians and Jews. Those anti-zionist Jews though, of course in your world they're known as self-loathing-Jews, when in reality, they are zionist-hating-Jews. :excited:



Updates:




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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Muslim savages looking for a fight for again even after the cameras and the metal detectors were removed

Those pigs want no peace this is very clear

Yeah, we know they want to push the Jews into the sea, but they have the liberal Democrats and most of the United Nations on their side with better public relations propaganda. The people of Israel are pretty much isolated and portrayed as racist bullies that have been occupying the homeland of the Muslim and Christian Arabs while abusing their human rights.

I pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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noir wrote:This thread is about BDS. That is the hate culture not the turn and the twist of the conflict.

There would not be a BDS movement without the turn and twist of the conflict. So no, BDS is not the personification of anti-semitism.

noir wrote:The Muslims know what they are fighting for, and they use the words human rights and apartheid to dupe the gullible, because jihad targets all sort of infidels worldwide, western support for demonization of Israel (BDS) has become self-destructive.

Actually I think this is where you have totally misread the conflict between Israeli's and Palestinians. The conflict has been a national struggle for Palestinian national identity. Even Israeli intelligence services have remarked on how the Palestinian struggle has largely remained nationalist in comparison to groups such as ISIS that have been religious. Plus the Palestinians have not opted to join the wider Jihadist struggle and maintained their role as purely a local nationalist organisation. They share a Islamic character, but rather than pan-Islamism, they are a local group seeking independence.

The most telling aspect of this has been how ISIS actually threatened war upon Fatah and Hamas because they were a nationalist group, rather than joining the global islamic jihad.
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@Hindsite Israel is trying to fight back. After more than decade that the Muslims and their fellow travelers celebrate Israel Apartheid Week on American campuses there is a new initiative to fight back. Groups of Israeli soldiers "Reservists on Duty" are participating in these hate weeks.












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^ Oh look, Israeli soldiers from the org Reservists on Duty, who travel 16 hours on a plane for the purpose of harassing American students who support the non-violent BDS movement. Who goes to another country to harass college student for activism? :lol:

More to that story, here.
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Not sure if sending "Reservists on Duty" will prove itself. Jewry should return to the JDL (Jewish Defense League) tactics against the American neo Nazis in the 60's and 70's. Even using terrorists methods.
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"Pals" are longing to return to Israeli occupation. French translation



Not surprising. There was never an Arab Pals state (beyond post WW1 British creation which was for all inhabitants) nor a Palestinian nationality. Despite this revelation, it doesn't prove anything. They are still a tool for wider pan Islamic incitement which makes them ungrateful and uneasy to rule. It won't change even if Israel will retake the PA.
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noir wrote:Not sure if sending "Reservists on Duty" will prove itself.


Well, if you meant if these Israeli soldiers and their propaganda stunt of harassing activists at a Californian University worked, I don't think so, since they and their backers attempts of stifling activism wasn't supported by the people in charge at the university.

noir wrote:Jewry should return to the JDL (Jewish Defense League) tactics against the American neo Nazis in the 60's and 70's. Even using terrorists methods.


noir wants Jewish terrorists to attack American activists. Charming.

This is zionism.


Back on topic:






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Miko Peled wrote:Senate BDS Bill.
Repressing free speech is undemocratic, that was established in the First Amendment a long time ago, and the right to boycott is enshrined within that amendment, including the right to boycott Israeli products. It was also established long ago that all men and women, including Palestinians, are created equal and are deserving of the same rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

For many decades now, Jews around the world, including staunch Zionist Jews like the late Dr. Nahum Goldman and Professor Yishayahu Leibovitch had opposed the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and building Jewish settlements there – as have Israeli generals, former Mossad chiefs and countless lesser known Jewish people. But over the last fifty years consecutive Israeli governments of all parties have built Jewish settlements in the West Bank and no amount of talking and negotiating has made the slightest difference.

Israel claims that it has a small Arab minority sometimes called “The Arabs of Israel” and that they enjoy full citizenship rights. However, these are Palestinian Arabs and although they hold Israeli citizenship they do not enjoy the same rights as Israeli Jewish citizens. They live in separate cities and separate communities, go to different schools are given far less opportunities and poverty levels are considerably higher among them. From laws that limit who they may marry and where they may live to laws that limit their right to commemorate the “Naqba,” the catastrophe that befell Palestinians when Israel was established, Palestinian citizens of Israel face discrimination at every stage of their lives, and still Israeli law makers continue to pass laws that discriminate against them at an alarming speed.

The Right of Return of Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 has been enshrined in article 11 of UN resolution 194. Furthermore, according to a report by the UN Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia the Law of Return, “conferring on Jews worldwide the right to enter Israel and obtain Israeli citizenship regardless of their countries of origin and whether or not they can show links to Israel-Palestine, while withholding any comparable right from Palestinians, including those with documented ancestral homes in the country.” This was correctly referred to as a policy of “demographic engineering meant to uphold Israel’s status as the Jewish state.”

BDS have arguably become the three most controversial letters in the alphabet. Representing the call by Palestinian civil society to impose boycott, to divest and to impose sanctions on the State of Israel and companies that profit from the Israeli occupation. This call seeks to remedy the three conditions described above without harming or depriving anyone of their rights. BDS is controversial mostly because the call has been widely misrepresented. But the demands of the BDS movement neither express or intend any racism or violence towards anyone, they are as follows:

Ending the occupation.
Equal rights to all Palestinians.
Return of the Palestinian refugees.

According to a letter submitted by the ACLU to members of the US Senate, “S. 720 Israel Anti-Boycott Act is a bill that seeks to criminalize the call for BDS.” It states that it “would punish businesses and individuals based solely on their political point of view” and “Such a penalty is in direct violation of the First Amendment.” The letter ends by urging senators to oppose the bill.

In speech made by Senator Chuck Schumer, one of the co-sponsors of this bill, regarding BDS at the American Jewish Committee’s Global Forum on June 5, 2017, the Senator from New York said, “There is no greater example than this insidious effort to harm the Jewish state than through the boycotts, divestment and sanctions.” However, in reading the demands of the BDS call, it is clear that its goals are to improve the conditions which Israel has imposed on Palestinians and to repair inequities which Israeli governments are unwilling to address. There is no question that all efforts to get Israel to repair the inequities without pressure, had been exhausted.

Schumer refers to BDS as “a modern form of anti-Semitism.” Indeed, a modern form which does not incite against Jews, does not call for the killing of or discrimination against Jews but instead demands that all people who reside in Palestine/Israel enjoy the same rights and privileges.

Miko Peled is an Israeli human rights activist living in Washington DC. He is the author of “The General’s Son, Journey of an Israeli in Palestine” and the forthcoming book, “Injustice, The Story of the Holy Land Foundation Five” expected to be available in the fall on 2017.

https://mikopeled.com/2017/07/31/senate ... iko-peled/
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Ending the occupation.
Equal rights to all Palestinians.
Return of the Palestinian refugees.


You still dont get it.

Israel will NEVER a accept a "return" of the so called "refugees"
ask any Israeli Jew if they choose a constant war or "return of the refugees" they will choose war because otherwise its just suicide
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