- 15 Jul 2017 23:35
#14823801
I don't agree that he is racist, but it's easy see why he was charged with racism when the definition of the term has become ever more nebulous.
Using the term civilisation (instead of nation) doesn't make any difference. By the left's/progressive standards today the only acceptable way to talk about Africa's problems is through the lense of European colonialism, its legacy and US/European imperialism and therefore as a general rule non-white people must not be blamed for their own misery.
As for the comparison with the use of the N word in the other thread, this was a case where a woman used it, quite likely without even thinking of black people. The only conclusion that we can draw with certainty is that by using the phrase, she's demonstrated that she's out of touch. On the other hand, what the French president said leaves no doubt that he thinks African civilisation is worse than, say, European civilisation. Personally, I think neither warrants a backlash, but the latter is an explicit negative judgment of Africans and their societies.
It's too early for me to say much about Macron, but I think it's unlikely that Obama would have publicly spoken in the same way about Africa.
B0ycey wrote:Just to be clear, Macron didn't imply superiority of nations. He was asked why Africa doesn't have a Marshall Plan and his response was that one civilisation has more problems than the other so today it isn't right to do so (as the money would likely not go to the right areas due to corruption). This is true. It is also not racist or sexest to say unsustainable birthrates are part of the problem. Its a fact. Do you think say $13 billion of aid to rebuild Africa is easier to execute with a population of 1.2 billion or say 150 million? Remember I am not a SJW. I am a Centrist. And I don't believe Africa should have special treatment when it comes to being honest with them. You can't put your head in the sand and pretend there is no problems there. So no. Macron wasn't racist, he just had the balls to be frank. Nonetheless I do find it ironic you can defend the use of the N-word but can't accept logic when it comes to racism.
I don't agree that he is racist, but it's easy see why he was charged with racism when the definition of the term has become ever more nebulous.
Using the term civilisation (instead of nation) doesn't make any difference. By the left's/progressive standards today the only acceptable way to talk about Africa's problems is through the lense of European colonialism, its legacy and US/European imperialism and therefore as a general rule non-white people must not be blamed for their own misery.
As for the comparison with the use of the N word in the other thread, this was a case where a woman used it, quite likely without even thinking of black people. The only conclusion that we can draw with certainty is that by using the phrase, she's demonstrated that she's out of touch. On the other hand, what the French president said leaves no doubt that he thinks African civilisation is worse than, say, European civilisation. Personally, I think neither warrants a backlash, but the latter is an explicit negative judgment of Africans and their societies.
Beren wrote:He's a pragmatist basically, like Obama was, although Obama was never perceived like that. Maybe because he never ran on a centrist platform, which would be suicidal in America.
It's too early for me to say much about Macron, but I think it's unlikely that Obama would have publicly spoken in the same way about Africa.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts"
Richard Feynman
Richard Feynman