[skinster]

Sigh. Everyone obsessed with the US.

You have this backwards. It's the US that won't stop destroying or otherwise meddling with country after country around the world.

[Drlee]

You have this backwards. It's the US that won't stop destroying or otherwise meddling with country after country around the world.

Nonsense. But first I should apologize for the Marshall Plan I suppose. And for the UN which the US funds to the tune of one in five dollars. And for the aid we give AIDS and famine victims world wide.

Now, if you remember my past posts, you will know that I am no fan of US military intervention. We should have let the Middle East self-destruct. Once ISIL took over and tried for nukes all we had to do is bake the place and leave it alone,

[skinster]

Nonsense. You have it backwards and think America is some force for good when any good it does is usually damage-control or with strings attached.

GTFO of everywhere, yankees.

[Drlee]

Naaaa. Can't you see? We are like the proverbial illegal aliens. Once we are in, you can't get us out.

[Rancid]

It's starting to feel like war with North Korea is a real thing.

[Potemkin]

It's starting to feel like war with North Korea is a real thing.

Technically, North Korea is already at war with South Korea and the US, and has been since the 1950s. It's just that a ceasefire has held for the past half century or so.

[Rancid]

Sure, I just mean bullets and missiles are going to start flying.

[ThirdTerm]

Michael Ellemen, a missile expert with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said videos taken by a weather camera in Japan's Hokkaido Prefecture showed the re-entry of the rocket shedding small radiant objects at an altitude of around 2.5-3 miles before dimming and then disappearing.

Mr Ellemen said: "Had the RV survived the rigours of re-entry, it would have continued to glow. A reasonable conclusion based on the video evidence is that the… re-entry vehicle did not survive.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/835 ... nald-Trump

The North Korean ICBM broke up into small radiant objects, according to videos taken by a weather camera. The rocket may have covered the distance to reach America but it's still incapable of inflicting any damage. North Korean ICBMs may be nothing more than expensive fireworks.

[Igor Antunov]

^It's a test, into the sea. And if a re-entry vehicle must survive, then the 3rd or 10th test will ensure that it does. Are you missing the trend? The pace of progress?

Can't wish this one away.

[anarchist23]

This is could be a potential game changer...

The US military is monitoring "highly unusual and unprecedented levels" of activity by North Korea's submarine force, with reports of a series of successful "ejection tests" of submarine-launched ballistic missiles described by analysts as a "critical step forward".
Three ejection tests were carried out on land at Sinpo Naval Shipyard in July alone, US officials told CNN. A further test was carried out at the base, which is the headquarters of the Maritime Research Institute of North Korea's Academy of National Defence Science, earlier in the year.
The report comes after North Korea's latest test of an intercontinental ballistic missile has shown that Pyongyang now may be able to reach most of the continental United States.
An ejection test is designed to test the cold-launch system required to propel a missile away from its launch tube on the submarine before the engine ignites, protecting the submarine.
The ground-based tests also coincide with a North Korean Romeo-class submarine carrying out "unusual activities" off the east coast of the peninsula for at least one week in late July.
The US and South Korea monitored the activities of the 1,800-ton diesel vessel, which is armed with 14 torpedoes and up to 20 mines. The submarine travelled more than 60 miles from the North Korean coast and into international waters, something which no submarine has been observed doing previously.
Analysts at the US-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins University suggested there are a number of possible explanations, although the "most likely is preparations for a test in the near future of an updated Pukguksong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile or a potentially newer system".
North Korea first successfully launched an SLBM in August 2016, with the weapon traveling more than 300 miles. Pyongyang is believed to want to be able to deploy a missile-capable submarine into the Pacific Ocean as an additional threat to the United States.
"Achieving a successful cold-launch ejection test, even from land-based tubes, is a critical step forward in making an operational missile", said Lance Gatling, a defence analyst and president of Tokyo-based Nexial Research Inc.
"The whole point of putting missiles into a stealthy platform like a submarine is to achieve tactical surprise, and this moves closer to that", he told The Telegraph.
The biggest problem for the North Koreans, however, is its "antiquated" and extremely noisy submarines, which make it relatively easy for US, South Korean and Japanese assets to monitor their activities, Gatling said.
North Korea is believed to have a fleet of around 70 submarines, although virtually all are obsolescent or small coastal vessels designed to infiltrate agents into the South.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08 ... ce-highly/

[Hindsite]

The North Korean ICBM broke up into small radiant objects, according to videos taken by a weather camera. The rocket may have covered the distance to reach America but it's still incapable of inflicting any damage. North Korean ICBMs may be nothing more than expensive fireworks.

You must live in dreamland. No matter how much you try to spin and deny it, this is a serious threat to the security of our allies in the region and a potential threat to the mainland USA.

[anarchist23]

..... this is a serious threat to the security of our allies in the region and a potential threat to the mainland USA.

The Americans can't do much about these test firings. If US attacked North Korea then South Korea would be seriously damaged in retaliation and that's with conventional weapons. North Korea knows this.

Former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein denounced the U.S. sanctions against North Korea on Sunday, saying the country is being "demonized" and the U.S. is the aggressor.

"The demonization of North Korea is part of the run-up to regime change," Stein insisted. "We saw it in Iraq, we saw it in Libya, it's part of demonizing a government that we then want to exercise regime change on."
"It's the North Koreans who have added the provocation in launching missiles," said MSNBC host Alex Witt.
"But remember where that came from! Long before they began their missile tests, the U.S. was conducting nuclear bombing runs against North Korea," Stein said.
Stein presumably meant to say the U.S. conducted practice bombing runs against the North Koreans, rather than actual nuclear strikes. But the United States conducted its practice runs after the North Koreans tested an intercontinental ballistic missile on the Fourth of July.
"This is very frightening to [North Korea]," Stein continued. "They've been basically cornered into feeling like they have to develop a nuclear weapon."
Stein also insisted that there was no evidence that the Russians were behind the hacks of Democratic institutions during the 2016 election. "The evidence is not definitive, it's circumstantial that it's the Russians," she said.
"It sounds as though you are supporting the positions of North Korea-China-Russia alliance over that of the United States," Witt pointed out.
"Actually I'm supporting here the position of the North Korea people," Stein responded.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ek-nukes//

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Wednesday...
2/8/17

There seems to be back-pedalling by the US. The Americans realise that they can do fuck all in regards North Korea.

The US government is not seeking a regime change in North Korea, the secretary of state says, amid tensions over Pyongyang's weapons programme.
"We're not your enemy," Rex Tillerson said, adding that the US wanted a dialogue at some point.
But a Republican senator said President Donald Trump had told him there would be a war with North Korea if its missile programme continued.
Pyongyang claimed its latest missile could hit the US west coast.
The second test of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) on Friday, celebrated by North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, was the latest to be conducted in defiance of a United Nations ban.
"We do not seek a regime change, we do not seek the collapse of the regime, we do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula, we do not seek an excuse to send our military north of the 38th parallel," said Mr Tillerson, referring to the border between the Koreas.
"We're not your enemy, we're not your threat but you're presenting an unacceptable threat to us and we have to respond."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40797613