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ingliz wrote:No.
:)

I see that you are going to continue to be a disagreeable person. So let's just agree to disagree on this and go back to the main topic.

THE SHOCKING TRUTH ON POPE FRANCIS! TOP 5 DISTURBING FACTS!

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Hindsite wrote:and go back to the main topic

You mean the main topic that is you begging us to watch bullshit videos of 'born again' conmen grifting to fund their fancy houses, Bentley cars, designer clothes, whores and drugs?

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#14844954
ingliz wrote:You mean the main topic that is you begging us to watch bullshit videos of 'born again' conmen grifting to fund their fancy houses, Bentley cars, designer clothes, whores and drugs?
:)

The video is about more lies of Pope Francis. It has nothing to do with all those other things you mention.

Are your videos intended to show how ignorant the women is that is asking questions or what?

They Have Made Void Thy Law



What God said about marriage, divorce and remarriage is being set aside by our lawless society (Matt. 19:1-12). Whereas God allowed one reason for a divorce which allowed the innocent party to remarry, men have set aside God's law to grant divorces for any reason. We have simply legalized adultery. What God has said regarding homosexuality is being set aside (cf. Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-11). Homosexuals are wanting to be treated as if their immorality was not disrespectful, in spite of their sinful, lawless conduct. Pornography is present in every quick stop market and on our television sets.

Even those things which are still considered to be crimes receive very little punishment. A man can commit a crime which has tens of years of punishment and be on the streets in a matter of months on shock probation. Ungodly, lawless men make our streets unsafe in many sections of the country. Our women are raped and left for dead. Our elderly people have become prisoners in their own houses because of the lawlessness which characterizes our society. There are no teeth left in the law; our government acts as if it is afraid to wield the sword in punishment against the evil doer.

The social do-gooders who have been in control of our courts and government have nearly destroyed us. Their concepts regarding sin have not been effective. The idea that sin can be controlled by a better environment, more education, and money has only resulted in criminals who are richer, more educated, and living in better facilities. Thugs who robbed banks have been replaced by thieves who rob through computers. We have not cured sin by our social programs. Rather, we have left sin unpunished and allowed crime to grow at rampant rates. The psalmist wrote, "It is time for thee, Lord, to work: for they have made void thy law" (Psa. 119:126).


http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/v ... 25064.html
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Walter Veith

Another conman.

The leadership of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Germany, Austria and Switzerland decided on 4 December 2012 to ban Veith from speaking on church property, describing his lectures as "spiritual abuse".


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#14845017
Since we don't want to watch your click-bait video, please summarize what the six lies are.
#14845110
Wait 'Till You Hear What The Pope Has To Say About Abortion.



Pope Francis Forgives Homosexuality



Seven FALSE Teachings Of The Roman Catholic Church


Published on Sep 2, 2016
I thank God for saving my soul, and I thank God for his precious word, the TRUTH which set me free. In this video I would like to show you some of the scriptures which opened my spiritual eyes to the deception that I was in as a Roman Catholic. I want to let you know without a doubt that I was on my way to Hell before I was truly saved and born again of the Spirit. I bring forth these teachings because there are literally millions of Roman Catholic people who are still on that same "broad road to destruction" that I was on. Here are seven different FALSE teachings of the Roman Catholic Church with references to their Catholic Catechism, compared with the TRUTH of God's Word. These are just a few of their FALSE teachings, but it would take too many pages to get into all of their FALSE teachings such as indulgences, Papal infallibility and related things. The seduction of Rome in our present time, is like a giant magnet, or a super powered vacuum, that has been seducing Christians by the millions into believing that the Roman Catholic church is simply "another" Christian denomination. So I encourage you to "Read the Bible" and allow the Word of God to EXPOSE the great diabolical deception of Rome, which has ensnared many millions in these last days! Remember that I am a former Roman Catholic, and it was the Word of God, anointed by the Spirit of God which delivered me form this hellish religion.

Exposing the blasphemy, heresy, and deceit of the Roman Catholic Church, the Papacy, and the Vatican.



Pope Francis now claims that God will forgive atheists and agnostics as long as they live morally and in accordance with their conscience.
#14845151
Pope Francis now claims that God will forgive...

Wrong again.

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

337 Lumen Gentium 16; cf. Denzinger, Sources Of Catholic Dogma (Enchiridion Symbolorum et Definitionum et declarationum de rebus fidei et morum) DS 3866-3872.

Lumen Gentium

Note the date.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964


Denzinger, Sources Of Catholic Dogma

Fr. Heinrich Denzinger's handbook (first ed., Würzburg, 1854) includes all articles and creeds of the Catholic Faith beginning with that of the 12 Apostles, all dogmatic definitions stamped with the Petrine authority of the Apostolic See (ex cathedra), decrees of the solemn Magisterium, papal bulls, encyclicals and letters, as well as some of the more weighty decisions of the Holy Office. The Enchiridion has been repeatedly republished, with considerable additions by different editors.

It is considered the final word on doctrinal questions.

Society of Saint Pius X wrote:Although not every entry in this 653-page compendium of Church teaching is definitional (i.e., ex cathedra), it still should be considered the final word on doctrinal questions, especially in these times of ecclesiastical anarchy.


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#14845446
ingliz wrote:Wrong again.

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

337 Lumen Gentium 16; cf. Denzinger, Sources Of Catholic Dogma (Enchiridion Symbolorum et Definitionum et declarationum de rebus fidei et morum) DS 3866-3872.


Note the date.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH
LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS
POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964

:)

That does not include the atheists and agnostics that Pope Francis added. Anyway, that dogma is not in accordance with the New Testament teachings either.

In Matthew 7:13–14, Jesus said, "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

Pope Francis Promotes Agenda of the Antichrist

#14845470
In Matthew 7:13–14, Jesus said, "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."


But, of course, this does not say that "few" who find it will all be Christians. Does it. In fact, Jesus Himself said that one did not have to be Christian to go to heaven. He said it clearly, directly and unambiguously. Apostates, such as many Christian sects like most fundamentalists deny Jesus teachings all the while maintaining the inerrancy of scripture.

When did Jesus say that non believers would get into heaven? Here:

But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’


So if you are an animist and did these good works, Jesus said He would welcome you His Kingdom. Atheist as well. Do you believe Jesus was lying Hindsite? Obviously you do. You do not believe in your Bible.
#14845501
Drlee wrote:But, of course, this does not say that "few" who find it will all be Christians. Does it. In fact, Jesus Himself said that one did not have to be Christian to go to heaven. He said it clearly, directly and unambiguously. Apostates, such as many Christian sects like most fundamentalists deny Jesus teachings all the while maintaining the inerrancy of scripture.

When did Jesus say that non believers would get into heaven?

Never.

This is what Jesus said, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
(John 3:16-18)

Drlee wrote:So if you are an animist and did these good works, Jesus said He would welcome you His Kingdom. Atheist as well.

No, Jesus did not say He would welcome animist and atheist into His Kingdom. Atheists are unbelievers by definition and they have a different fate.

Jesus said, "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."
(John 8:24)

Drlee wrote:Do you believe Jesus was lying Hindsite? Obviously you do. You do not believe in your Bible.

I believe you and the Pope are the liars, not Jesus. For this is what is in my Holy Bible:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
(Revelation 21:8)

And I believe it. Praise the Lord. HalleluYah.
#14845531
Hindsite wrote:fire and brimstone

"But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more."

Luke 12:48

"The one who did not know" will not be punished for his ignorance (1 Timothy 2:4).

He will be justified by his works or punished for his misdeeds (James 2:21, Matt 25:35-36, Luke 12:48).

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology wrote:Justification

Justification is the declaring of a person to be just or righteous. It is a legal term signifying acquittal [Job 13:18].


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ingliz wrote:"But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more."

Luke 12:48

This parable is just putting forth the basic principle of severity of punishment based on knowledge and opportunity. It is sometimes used to support no punishment for babies or small children. But adults have adequate opportunity to gain knowledge of the Truth.
ingliz wrote:The "one who did not know" will not be punished for ignorance (1 Timothy 2:4)

You must be quoting this from some satanic bible for the KJV of the Holy Bible reads like this:

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
(1 Timothy 2:1-4 KJV)

There is nothing there, when read in context, that says "one who did not know" will not be punished for ignorance.
ingliz wrote:He will be justified by his works or punished for his misdeeds (James 2:21).

Another quote from your satanic bible. This is how the Holy Bible reads:

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
(James 2:21-22 KJV)

That was simply making James point that your faith should be accompanied by works that prove your faith. He does not mean that works replaces faith or misdeeds.

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Pope Francis is the first Jesuit Pope.

Jesuits Created The Secret Rapture & 7 Year Tribulation, & Both Are False Doctrines And Unbiblical

The secret rapture, and than 7 years of tribulation is not biblical, and both doctrines were created by the evil jesuits as part of the counter reformation.



Communist Jesuit Black Pope Has Taken Over The Vatican

Published on Jul 11, 2015
Alex Jones breaks down how the Pope is a part of the globalist plan to destroy the world.



POPE CALLS FOR NEW WORLD ORDER - http://www.infowars.com/pope-calls-fo...
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Hindsite wrote:There is nothing there, when read in context, that says "one who did not know" will not be punished for ignorance.

You are wrong as usual.

(a) God desires all people to be saved; 1 Timothy 2:4.

(b) There is but one God over all the human race, and all are alike his children; 1 Timothy 2:5.

(c) There is one and the same Mediator between God and all people; 1 Timothy 2:5.

(d) The same atonement has been made for all; 1 Timothy 2:6-7.

That was...

Scripture plainly shows that an opinion, or assent to the gospel, without works, is not faith.

Also,

God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

Romans 2:6-7

but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.

Romans 2:10-11

For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

Romans 2:14-16

faith

God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

1 John 4:16


:)
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ingliz wrote:You are wrong as usual.

(a) God desires all people to be saved; 1 Timothy 2:4.

(b) There is but one God over all the human race, and all are alike his children; 1 Timothy 2:5.

(c) There is one and the same Mediator between God and all people; 1 Timothy 2:5.

(d) The same atonement has been made for all; 1 Timothy 2:6-7.

But you seem to forget that atheists are unbelievers, who do not accept the atonement of Christ. Although God desires that all people will come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved, scripture, however, reveals that the majority will not be saved, but will be thrown into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone, the second death.

ingliz wrote:Scripture plainly shows that an opinion, or assent to the gospel, without works, is not faith.

Also,

God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

Romans 2:6-7

but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.

Romans 2:10-11

For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

Romans 2:14-16


God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

1 John 4:16

:)

Most of the people today do not abide in God's love, but abide in Satan's hate.
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Hindsite wrote:atheists

The Law brings about wrath, but where there is no Law, there is no transgression.

Romans 4:15

God desires that all people will come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved.

Those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel.

But you seem to forget..

Usurping God's authority?

It is not your place to pass judgement on their relation to God, it is God's (Matt 7:1).


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ingliz wrote:The Law brings about wrath, but where there is no Law, there also is no violation.

Romans 4:15

But there is a law for everyone. It is God's law and the Ten Commandments.

Atheists have no excuse, they deliberately reject God and His Ten Commandment Law. And God will reject them and all those that reject His Son. Praise the Lord. HalleluYah.
#14845694
Hindsite wrote:But there is a law for everyone.

No.

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin.

John 15:22

the majority will not be saved... God will reject them

If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.

Matthew 12:7


:)
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ingliz wrote:No.

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin.
John 15:22
:)

"If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin."
(John 15:22 NASB)
Jesus was not saying men would not be sinners, if He had not come to them, because there have been sinners from the time of Adam and Eve.
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
(Romans 3:23 KJV)

When read in context, we can see that Jesus is only speaking of their sin of hating Him without a cause. They might have had an excuse for that sin, if He had not come to them in person and done the works of His Father. But now they had no excuse. The next verses explains that point.

"He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well. But they have done this to fulfill the word that is written in their Law, 'THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE.'"
(John 15:23-25 NASB)
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They might have had an excuse for that sin, if He had not come to them in person and done the works of His Father.

Almost 70% of the world's population do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church (He hasn't come to them in person and done the works of His Father) .

an excuse for that sin

When they have an excuse for that sin, why shouldn't that sin be excused?

Hindsite wrote:punishment [is] based on knowledge.

One cannot charge with the sin of separation those who are born into communities that do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church and in them are brought up in the faith of their fathers.

For...

Lumen Gentium 16 wrote:Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things


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ingliz wrote:Almost 70% of the world's population do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church (He hasn't come to them in person and done the works of His Father) .

Are you sure that percentage is correct? Today, when they see a Christian in person and get a Holy Bible in their language, that is good enough.

ingliz wrote:When they have an excuse for that sin, why shouldn't that sin be excused?
:)

If they have a legitimate excuse, then I have no objection. However, Pope Francis and the Roman Catholic Church does not have an excuse for leading others away from Jesus Christ.
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