Prosthetic Conscience wrote:Of course Trump is pro-head trauma. It's the only way he can get people stupid enough to support him.
You obviously completely missed the point. Many of the people with the head trauma are the ones protesting, or was that not obvious to you?
Oxymoron wrote:Trump is absolutely right, these players not respecting the flag and our country should be held accountable. The NFL is losing ratings, and the owners should really put the hammer down against these traitorous scum.
Well, it seems like some of the owners are behind this. Jimmy Jones took a knee with his players. That will be interesting to watch what happens. Some Texans take some of that stuff very personally, and they aren't going to like it. It's going to cost the NFL, not Trump.
Oxymoron wrote:As far as player safety, that is an absurd idea the game of football is about violence but Mommy culture needs to castrate all entertainment. whats next boxing where punching is illegal?
This is not about logic. This is evidence that Obama was a creation, and so are these controversies. Boxing is a sport in which the objective is to knock the other guy unconscious. Football is not. However, football is (and soon was) the most popular sport in the US. The thinking behind these political types is that we are a captive audience. However, that isn't proving to be the case. Watch what happens to Dallas Cowboys ratings. This will be interesting to see. I'm particularly interested if fans boycott the Thanksgiving Cowboys game.
Rush Limbaugh says there is no way Trump can lose this one. I think he's right. I don't think the NFL or people like Jerry Jones really get it.
jimjam wrote:Poor Donald got his panties all tied in a knot. When Steve Curry "hesitated" to make a trip to the White House (he said he wasn't going) to suck up to the Great Man, the Great Man "withdrew" his invitation. He may be a jerk but he sure is entertaining .
I think this story is going to be around for awhile. Trump is taking a side with huge numbers of Americans who don't go along with media programming. There are Americans who believe whatever they believe, because somebody they like believes it. Trump is ripping the NFL fan base from the NFL and they are falling for it. This is a business.
jimjam wrote:Donald is obviously confusing jingoism for patriotism.
You guys missed that when he ran for president too. The point is that Donald Trump--like Rush Limbaugh--gets huge ratings for doing nothing more than saying what people already think, but are mostly prevented from saying on major media outlets due to political correctness. The NFL doubling down on this isn't going to stop Trump. It's going to cost them huge amounts of money and ratings.
There’s No Way Trump Loses NFL BattleRush Limbaugh wrote:RUSH: Here’s the AP. The AP: “President’s Criticism Sparked More Protests at NFL Games.” This is how out of touch, the media and everybody in the NFL just went to town on this. They promoted this, because the objective — for those of you tuning in today who are not politically oriented and not steeped in a daily dose of political news, the objective in all of this, after Trump’s comments on Friday, the objective is to separate Trump’s voters from Trump.
See? You guys straight up don't get it again. Trump supporters know they are being manipulated. However, these protesters aren't defying Trump. They are defying the United States and the flag. This is not going to hurt Trump at all. They may try to sell you that idea with some jerry-rigged polls. However, they aren't going to win this round.
Rush Limbaugh wrote:So Trump goes to his Alabama rally on Friday night and says what he says, and the media assumes as they always do and the left assumes as they always do that a vast majority of America is righteously offended, righteously indignant, and righteously will not tolerate what the president said. And they go to town reporting it gleefully as though this is it, the president’s done it now, he’s finally shot himself in the foot. And then they realize that the president’s supporters on backing him and agree with him.
And it happens over and over. People who are making high 6 and low 7 figure sums advising people are falling for this losing gambit every single time, and they are amazed that they lose.
Trump wrote:THE PRESIDENT: The NFL ratings are town massively. Massively. The number one reason happens to be that they like watching what’s happening with yours truly. Because you know, today, if you hit too hard, right? They hit too hard, 15 yards, throw him out of the game. They had that last week. I watched for a couple of minutes, two guys just really, beautiful tackle, boom, 15 yards, the referee gets on television, his wife is sitting at home, she’s so proud of him. They’re ruining the game! Right?
See? Trump was watching the game too, and had the same reaction I did. I even booed when they did the same thing to the Broncos, and I hate the Broncos. Trump is totally in sync with football fans..
Doug64 wrote:The NFL has at least one player that loves his flag and the nation it represents and has the courage to stand for it: Alejandro Villanueva only Steelers player to appear for national anthem
It's awesome. Now the act of courage is being a patriot and not a shit bag.
Doug64 wrote:Apparently the coach didn't reckon with an Army veteran. I checked out the Steelers Facebook page, and there are a lot of unhappy fans and now-former fans praising Villanueva and condemning the rest of the team and the NFL as a whole. It'll be interesting to see if our Daily Prophets make anything of this. I doubt it, though, Villanueva has the wrong name, it goes against their meme that only ignorant, bigoted rednecks still love the flag.
Trump got a bigger chunk of the Hispanic vote than Romney. I guarantee that they flat out do not understand the support of Villaneuva and the contempt for the rest of the Steelers organization. This is as amazing to me as the day Trump announced for president. It's amazing to me how hermetically sealed leftists are from the rest of the country.
Beren wrote:The nation can be glad now that the issue has been elevated from colonel to commander in chief by Trump. A new high in American politics when the president deals with NFL issues.
It is so awesome that you don't get it. This is what made 2016 such an amazing political year. Some people don't like the commotion, but on substance they are with Trump.
The Immortal Goon wrote:Waiting patiently for Maz, Hindsite, and Other “free-speech” advocates to strongly condemn Trump for trying to end freedom of speech in the NFL.
Oh c'mon. You guys thought it was just great when James Damore was fired. You don't have political speech on the job. Many of you went to great lengths to argue that bourgeois people are so soft that they don't expect to be fired for fireable offenses. Freedom of speech doesn't apply in the workplace. It only applies to government action.
Ter wrote:I might be wrong but I assume the majority of the spectators come from the deplorable part of society, the part that supports President Trump. Let's see how that works out.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Trying to preach something abhorent to a captive audience is a fool's errand. It's amazing to me that they take the bait. I guarantee you that Trump is enjoying this.
Drlee wrote:Did you know that the Army paid the NFL for their touching hometown heroes bullshit?
Yes. It's all propaganda. However, it was propaganda to a willing audience. Fans did not appreciate Suzan G. Komen foundation getting football players to wear pink. I flat out refused to give a dime to breast cancer research precisely because of that. Did you know that Budweiser paid to put their signs up in those stadiums too?
Drlee wrote:About 4 million dollars. You do know Marine Colonel that these are not spontaneous outpourings of love and adoration but rather staged commercials with a very specific purpose.
Yes. We know that Drlee. It was opening day for the Raiders home game. They had three retired special forces guys parachute into the stadium. They also had three F/A-18 Hornets fly over. That's probably about $60k right there. Fans ate it up. Now, the NFL is totally fucking over one of their main sponsors. That will piss off the military, but not Congressional Democrats who think this divisiveness is great.
Drlee wrote:Well it is irrelevant but none of them "make minimum wage". They make far more.
Between 11.75 and 13.25 per hour if you assume they are only working 8 hours a day, 7 days a week. Hell, my buddy was a master seargeant for a propulsion section, and his crews worked 16 hour days to turn F-15s around at RAF Lakenheath for duty in Iraq--it was simply too hot to do the full engine rebuilds in Kuwait. If you factor in that some of these guys are putting in 12-16 hours a day, they are getting roughly minimum wage.
Stormsmith wrote:When they do show, remind them that the Supreme Court gave folks the right to burn the flag.
Not at work, they didn't. The NFL has the right to burn the flag at the beginning of every football game, if that's what they want to do. I'm fine to remind them of that. I suggest that instead of performing the national anthem, they burn a flag at the beginning of every game. I love feeding cultural marxists bad medicine. The owners will totally screw themselves over with this one. This is why I love having Trump as president.
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:It's probably one of the most stupid ideas for players, clubs or sports organisations to politicise sports.
It is. People watch sports to forget about day-to-day life. Throwing it back in their face makes their investment in sports a negative experience. That's why ratings are plummeting. I only got 3 games this year. I'll enjoy it FWIF, but the Raiders are going to move to Las Vegas. Everyone says that Mark Davis is going to get taken under the bleachers and won't be an owner within 5-10 years of moving to Las Vegas. Probably true. However, I think the blowback from fans on this is going to be huge. They'll stick with Trump to a significant degree.
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