I gave the link. Dispute the link. The stats say that the incarceration of native Hawaiians is 41% and that people who self identify as Native Hawaiians who are incarcerated in USA states is 50% they are taking from the total Hawaiian identification of the population Dr. Lee. If that is not the case? Prove it. I put in the links. If you differ? Find links stating that the Hawaiians are not jailed in disporportionate numbers to their total percentage of the residents in Hawaii. Simple dispute resolution. You find different stats that are reputable. I concede the point. You can't do it? You concede the point. Math Dr. Lee. There are not that many total Hawaiians. There are not.
I am going to give you an example. On the island of Puerto Rico (main one), Vieques and Culebra there are in total approximately 3.4 million residents. After Hurricane Maria this is going to go down in flames for sure. Now, how many are residing in one of the 50 states but who self identify as Puerto Rican? About 5 million. There are more Puerto Ricans in the mainland than in Puerto Rico Dr. Lee. But it is a historic and important ethnic group self identifying as Puerto Rican.
https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/in ... id/708460/That is for the Hawaiian jails. The mainland jails have another set of incarcerated people. You got to follow typical rates of immigration Dr. Lee. Native Hawaiians usually move to the closest states to them geographically. That would be California, Washington and Oregon. The West. Why? Closer geographically.
About the second point Dr. Lee. It is destroyed. If you disagree than discuss that with a panel of Hawaiian cultural leaders from the University of Hawaii. One of the definitions of nationhood pulled from the dictionary is a shared and alive common language that is used among the youth. How many native Hawaiians speak Hawaiian fluently. Linguists study extinct languages. How do they go extinct? Usually a big major event. Conquest by another ethnicity usually by force or coercion, or an unbalanced power relationship that is imposed. How did Gaelic become a minority spoken language in Ireland for example? Because the English made it hard to preserve. Through many means. The Irish and the Welsh are making efforts to get the young people to speak it again in those communities. Why? They don't want to lose the culture that comes with the language speaking Dr. Lee. Hebrew wasn't the dominant language of the entire Jewish community all over the world. They formed the state of Israel and adopted Hebrew because they wanted to create a truly Jewish cultural homeland. Why? Do you get my point about if you lose your native language you destroy a culture. Can you imagine a USA without English and being forced to not speak English because the English speaking Americans were conquered by invaders who not only prohibited the speech of that land but who said that English was not viable economically and that the new language was something benign and ok and would not alter American history or culture. Something just 'there'. You need to study history of how cultures get destroyed. Native American languages have been systemically destroyed in the USA and have almost hardly any real possibility of making a comeback. Do you need more examples Dr. Lee? It exists. So do Klingon speakers from the Star Trek franchise. But there are 3,000 fluent Kligon speakers who speak a made up Star Trek language. Native fluent Hawaiian speakers who prefer it over using English with their kids everyday Dr. Lee? No. I speak Spanish to my sons every day. Not English. I do that on purpose. You stop speaking your 'native' tongue to the youth? Condemn the language to extinction. That is reality.
Now let us clarify. 41% of all the incarcerated population in Hawaiian prisons self identify as "Hawaiian". Not caucasian, not Japanese, not x or y or z. Why? They love to lie? You add that with the incarceration of a bunch of Hawaiian identified in jail in USA prisons and you add up the total? These are people who are most probably not full blooded Hawaiians Dr. Lee. Because the full blooded Hawaiians? They are very rare. Another link about Hawaii I just looked at now? Says that full blooded Hawaiians are less than 8,000 of the entire population of Hawaii. That is pretty small. How many of those speak Hawaiian to their kids Dr. Lee? And you compare that to the entire 320 or 330 million of the big mainland USA? How are they going to preservere with that kind of number pressure on them? All the scientific predictions is going to be saying, "Not well." Most probably destroyed in the next few generations. For me culture is not about putting on a Hawaiian skirt and doing the hula and saying "Aloha." It is thinking in Hawaiian, not English, having concepts about social interaction with each other, the land, and the community not based on English Anglo paradigms of Americana from the mainland. How many can say that in native Hawaiian communities Dr. Lee?
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/profiles/HI.htmlI love pie charts. Easy to read Dr. Lee. Anyway, it holds up. I can easily find some sources that say it is even higher than what I posted about Hawaiians being in Hawaiians jails in disporportionate numbers. The biggest websites on jails sometimes exclude Hawaii and Alaska systemically. Non profits write that this happens because a large portion of the jailed populations are about native peoples from that land. Also, in many states the prison administrators fudge numbers and say that certain prisoners are 'caucasian' and they are not. This happens a lot in New Mexico and in many states that have very sketchy racial data practices.
Alright Dr. Lee the part about Puerto Ricans not being able to vote for any USA president and having non voting rep and no rights in terms of influencing any elections in any real way on the mainland. They are based on USA imposed laws.
Again, look up Balzac vs Puerto Rico. (1922). All the other insular cases that followed legally had the same outcome up until the present. It basically states that Puerto Rico belongs to the USA but is not part of the USA. We are a possession and not part of the political system here. We have USA citizenship via statute. That is not constitutionally guaranteed or naturalized. It has different laws. Essentially it means that the congress is the only body in the USA political system who can either concede us a valid vote that influences USA elections on the mainland, or releases us from USA control and makes us independent. The people of Puerto Rico on the mainland can't do that via an island vote. It is not legal to do so even if the majority of the Puerto Rican people vote to become a USA state or vote for an independent nation. That is effectively colonialism. Where a society doesn't have the right to self determination Dr. Lee. Something one would think the USA would understand is bad policy....after all they fought for their own national independence from England didn't they? Back in 1776. The British were pissed and burned down the White House and tried to take back the colonies of the USA. It was an ugly, bloody war. That usually ensues when some arrogant Empire decides they have a right to possess others without giving them equal rights? Don't you agree Dr. Lee?