- 13 Dec 2017 16:21
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He said that a lot of the problems today could be solved if we didn't have a lot of the later amendments. That could imply the 13th Amendment, but he obviously means at least the 14th and 16th amendments, which have been used to contort the meaning of the original constitution. Even the 19th amendment has allowed jurists to completely abandon the purpose of the law and social institutions. That is a valid criticism of the modern left.
The Democrats did not put an end to it when they were in power. Obama pushed for the TPP. The establishment maintains the illusion of partisanship to suit their needs, and pushes the notion of bipartisan support when it suits their needs.
I didn't call blacks lazy as a group. It's not whites per se denying blacks jobs. A lot of whites have lost their jobs to China. That's why its important to note a real factor in what Roy Moore is not: a tool of Wall Street bankers. That's why a Chuck Schumer goes out of his way to help a Republican like Thad Cochran. It's not because he's white, but because of his role on the banking committee and appropriations committee. It's all about the power of money. To miss this is to miss why Donald Trump won the White House.
So why are you trying to maintain that there is some illusion of white solidarity?
I would try to point her in the right direction about who is a good person to date and who isn't. Women rebel very quickly if you order them around.
They may get their wish.
They already had a negro league in baseball, and it collapsed after they were allowed to play in MLB.
They are obviously pushing a sexist agenda, and that did not end with Hillary Clinton's ignominious and well-desereved defeat to Donald Trump.
They are very different cases. In the case of the NFL suit, the woman was accused of stealing and then fired. Subsequently, she decided it was about sexual harassment and age discrimination. Everything was fine until the money ran out. That's a common theme in many of these cases. That's why I say a lot of these Hollywood actresses come out when they are passed their sexual sell-by date. Emma Thompson is an older woman now. There aren't lines of boys lining up to fuck her, so now she comes out with her allegations and support of other women making allegations. It's self serving. They played along, because it suited them to do so. Now they want to take a moral high ground as spite, because the market no longer finds them particularly hot. If you focus on your acting ability, you can be fairly old and still in demand like Helen Miren, Judy Dench or Meryl Streep. If you try to play the tart card your whole life, it doesn't work. You remember when Hillary was losing to Barack Obama? What did Bill Clinton say? "I can't make her any younger." That's true. He couldn't make her appealing in other ways too, since she was a neocon war hawk that hates working class people.
By contrast, in the Charlottesville case, the establishment saw that neo-Nazis were gathering in a park peacefully and didn't like seeing that. So they arranged a protest against them in a subsequent rally. The neo-Nazis were peaceful and 22 of the Antifa and BLM types ended up getting arrested. So the establishment decided to be more violent in a third round. They got their wish. Violence ensued and someone on their side got killed. If one of the neo-Nazis had gotten killed, there wouldn't be any outcry at all. That's the establishment for you. I just know that they were intending to do that, so I'm not going to condemn whoever they want me to condemn. That's why I think the Al Franken case is funny, but you don't hear me constantly condemning him.
Women don't harass as much as men. They tempt and taunt. Yet, here you are taking the white accuser's side over the black man. No presumption of innocence for the black man, I see... That's what I mean. Here you are sticking up for Wall Street's establishment and thinking you are standing up for women.
The person accused of murder is a diagnosed schizophrenic. Many of the "leaders" of these right wing protests were "former" Obama supporters. The deep state wanted this fight, and they got it. It would not have occurred had the political leadership in Charlottesville and Richmond allowed the neo-Nazi types to have peaceful protests.
The establishment Republicans are wicked enough to do something like that, but John Conyers is part of the establishment. So they wouldn't do that to him. You might say that about Leann Tweeden on Al Franken, but she only brought it up when Franken decided to condemn Roy Moore without disclosing his own cop-a-feel ways, and she had him dead to rights with that picture.
They have always been an also ran. They had better days when they weren't so obviously biased. CNN did too. They used to have a pretty good news operation, and a good foreign desk too. In their heyday, they far outclassed FoxNews as a news organization. As a bunch of political hacks, CNN is a shambles of its former self. It started going down hill when Ted Turner married Jane Fonda, and it has never recovered.
Offer, acceptance, performance and consideration constitute a contract. They didn't have to accept the contract. Many of them were attorneys/lawyers. They knew exactly what they were doing.
I never claimed any of them spoke for all women. I said they all know exactly what they were doing, and what they're doing it for. FoxNews does have some fairly decent women like Dana Perino, Ainsley Earhardt and once Greta Van Susteren. However, there are a lot of predatory women out there who aren't called out for their own actions.
There is no science behind it. It is straight up Marxism and a tort invented in the wake of the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings precisely to stop a black conservative.
The burden of proof is on the accuser in our system of laws, and the establishment wants to change that in the short term as long as the accuser is a woman and as long as the accusation is about sexual harassment. As I stated, there is nary a complaint until the payments stop.
I am utterly opposed to ObamaCare. They try to get people like me to support it by saying, "but...but...the Heritage Foundation came up with it!" So? Why should I care. I'm no more a fascist than I am a communist.
I'm not an anarchist either.
Capitalists generally don't refuse anyone, because profit is their motive and economies of scale require maximizing revenue. Christians, racists, sexists, etc. may have different motives. Ascribing those traits to capitalists is typically incorrect.
I agree. I don't think blacks should be required to serve whites. They should be able to form all black churches, etc. It's only if their enterprise is so big that all groups depend on it that the commerce clause should come in and prohibit discrimination.
That's a bit of a stretch. As I said, I'm not an anarchist. I think the establishment has badly mismanaged things, that they are generally dishonest, and that their boundless ambitions are dangerously counterproductive.
Calling me a racist is a separate question from a white supremacist. I think all people are racist intrinsically, even if they aren't politically. I think that is hard-wired into human nature. I think the empirical evidence is overwhelming. In fact, I think it is capitalist imperialists that deny this the most loudly along with the communists. Each side wants to rule the entire world and so they embrace every group possible, which is why they embrace Muslims that want to kill them while trashing Christians simultaneously.
As for calling Obama's wife a monkey, I don't recall doing that but I wouldn't run away from it either. That was done against George Bush constantly and it is done against Trump too. What goes around comes around.
As for cops killing blacks, in most of the cases black suspects were non-compliant, resisting arrest, etc. In a few cases, the cops were clearly in the wrong, like the South Carolina cop that shot someone in the back or the cop that stopped a person for a tail light violation and then shot him because he had a concealed carry permit. Those cops should be sent to prison. I don't think what happened to Darren Wilson was even remotely fair.
I have no problem debating race with you, since I think racism is a part of the natural order. It's naturally going to make the communists and the capitalists of the imperialist variety uncomfortable, because I'm keeping to a more scientific position which they find untenable. However, that's also why I think it is pointless supporting them or fighting their wars, since they are essentially going to lose a lot more than they win until they come to terms with reality. We don't need one currency, a world government, a single language, or a single religion. It's pointless. Trade and the law merchant should be sufficient.
Libertarian353 wrote:Except Roy Moore literally said that.
He said that a lot of the problems today could be solved if we didn't have a lot of the later amendments. That could imply the 13th Amendment, but he obviously means at least the 14th and 16th amendments, which have been used to contort the meaning of the original constitution. Even the 19th amendment has allowed jurists to completely abandon the purpose of the law and social institutions. That is a valid criticism of the modern left.
Libertarian353 wrote:No thanks to Bill and the republicans onwards.
The Democrats did not put an end to it when they were in power. Obama pushed for the TPP. The establishment maintains the illusion of partisanship to suit their needs, and pushes the notion of bipartisan support when it suits their needs.
Libertarian353 wrote:Again how can you say the Black man is lazy, if whites deny him jobs to China?
I didn't call blacks lazy as a group. It's not whites per se denying blacks jobs. A lot of whites have lost their jobs to China. That's why its important to note a real factor in what Roy Moore is not: a tool of Wall Street bankers. That's why a Chuck Schumer goes out of his way to help a Republican like Thad Cochran. It's not because he's white, but because of his role on the banking committee and appropriations committee. It's all about the power of money. To miss this is to miss why Donald Trump won the White House.
Libertarian353 wrote:Whites are already losing to minorities cause their whites in office enact polices that ends up killing them:
So why are you trying to maintain that there is some illusion of white solidarity?
Libertarian353 wrote:Ok, would you let your daughter date whom she wanted if you had one?
I would try to point her in the right direction about who is a good person to date and who isn't. Women rebel very quickly if you order them around.
Libertarian353 wrote:Honestly do you know Black people actually prefer NFL shut down?
They may get their wish.
Libertarian353 wrote:They believe if it's shut down Blacks can make their own Negro Football league, and beat us whites. Like a race war but in sports.
I found that amusing.
They already had a negro league in baseball, and it collapsed after they were allowed to play in MLB.
Libertarian353 wrote:So we the establishment is fighting itself?
They are obviously pushing a sexist agenda, and that did not end with Hillary Clinton's ignominious and well-desereved defeat to Donald Trump.
Libertarian353 wrote:Again they could be right. Here's the difference, you don't give our women the benefit of the doubt or excuses same way you treated that "both sides" kid who killed a woman in Virginia.
They are very different cases. In the case of the NFL suit, the woman was accused of stealing and then fired. Subsequently, she decided it was about sexual harassment and age discrimination. Everything was fine until the money ran out. That's a common theme in many of these cases. That's why I say a lot of these Hollywood actresses come out when they are passed their sexual sell-by date. Emma Thompson is an older woman now. There aren't lines of boys lining up to fuck her, so now she comes out with her allegations and support of other women making allegations. It's self serving. They played along, because it suited them to do so. Now they want to take a moral high ground as spite, because the market no longer finds them particularly hot. If you focus on your acting ability, you can be fairly old and still in demand like Helen Miren, Judy Dench or Meryl Streep. If you try to play the tart card your whole life, it doesn't work. You remember when Hillary was losing to Barack Obama? What did Bill Clinton say? "I can't make her any younger." That's true. He couldn't make her appealing in other ways too, since she was a neocon war hawk that hates working class people.
By contrast, in the Charlottesville case, the establishment saw that neo-Nazis were gathering in a park peacefully and didn't like seeing that. So they arranged a protest against them in a subsequent rally. The neo-Nazis were peaceful and 22 of the Antifa and BLM types ended up getting arrested. So the establishment decided to be more violent in a third round. They got their wish. Violence ensued and someone on their side got killed. If one of the neo-Nazis had gotten killed, there wouldn't be any outcry at all. That's the establishment for you. I just know that they were intending to do that, so I'm not going to condemn whoever they want me to condemn. That's why I think the Al Franken case is funny, but you don't hear me constantly condemning him.
Libertarian353 wrote:Maybe she was accused and she suing for harassment and false accusation. Again I believe in equality under the law, and again we men obviously have a tendercy to commit more raping or sexual harassment than women. It's not out of the realm of possibility that this happen.
Women don't harass as much as men. They tempt and taunt. Yet, here you are taking the white accuser's side over the black man. No presumption of innocence for the black man, I see... That's what I mean. Here you are sticking up for Wall Street's establishment and thinking you are standing up for women.
Libertarian353 wrote:Again, these are strong testosterone men, some with illegal drugs in the system. I could see that happening. We don't know the full story about it. But the difference is how you come to conclusion when women accuse people of rape, yet not on white males committing murder?
The person accused of murder is a diagnosed schizophrenic. Many of the "leaders" of these right wing protests were "former" Obama supporters. The deep state wanted this fight, and they got it. It would not have occurred had the political leadership in Charlottesville and Richmond allowed the neo-Nazi types to have peaceful protests.
Libertarian353 wrote:Likely not, they could be pay by republicans.
The establishment Republicans are wicked enough to do something like that, but John Conyers is part of the establishment. So they wouldn't do that to him. You might say that about Leann Tweeden on Al Franken, but she only brought it up when Franken decided to condemn Roy Moore without disclosing his own cop-a-feel ways, and she had him dead to rights with that picture.
Libertarian353 wrote:Explain why?
They have always been an also ran. They had better days when they weren't so obviously biased. CNN did too. They used to have a pretty good news operation, and a good foreign desk too. In their heyday, they far outclassed FoxNews as a news organization. As a bunch of political hacks, CNN is a shambles of its former self. It started going down hill when Ted Turner married Jane Fonda, and it has never recovered.
Libertarian353 wrote:Of course, but the issue is that they HAD to do it. The same way a girl has to prostitute herself. A gal gotta eat.
Offer, acceptance, performance and consideration constitute a contract. They didn't have to accept the contract. Many of them were attorneys/lawyers. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Libertarian353 wrote:Evidence that this is what they wanted? And again they don't speak for all women. The same way Roy Moore doesn't speak for all Republicans.
I never claimed any of them spoke for all women. I said they all know exactly what they were doing, and what they're doing it for. FoxNews does have some fairly decent women like Dana Perino, Ainsley Earhardt and once Greta Van Susteren. However, there are a lot of predatory women out there who aren't called out for their own actions.
Libertarian353 wrote:You do know that Sexual harassment goes beyond physical right? Like there is a science behind it.
There is no science behind it. It is straight up Marxism and a tort invented in the wake of the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings precisely to stop a black conservative.
Libertarian353 wrote:Again it's called denial or assumptions. How do we know that he's lying and what she's saying is genuine?
The burden of proof is on the accuser in our system of laws, and the establishment wants to change that in the short term as long as the accuser is a woman and as long as the accusation is about sexual harassment. As I stated, there is nary a complaint until the payments stop.
Libertarian353 wrote:You wanted Obamacare(which whites rely on) gone which will kill my people.
I am utterly opposed to ObamaCare. They try to get people like me to support it by saying, "but...but...the Heritage Foundation came up with it!" So? Why should I care. I'm no more a fascist than I am a communist.
Libertarian353 wrote:So ancapism, good.
I'm not an anarchist either.
Libertarian353 wrote:Under anacho-capitalism if one wishes to not serve Blacks or any minorities, that's fine and it's better off they know.
Capitalists generally don't refuse anyone, because profit is their motive and economies of scale require maximizing revenue. Christians, racists, sexists, etc. may have different motives. Ascribing those traits to capitalists is typically incorrect.
Libertarian353 wrote:But the same rights of that white racist should apply to racists of all colors.
I agree. I don't think blacks should be required to serve whites. They should be able to form all black churches, etc. It's only if their enterprise is so big that all groups depend on it that the commerce clause should come in and prohibit discrimination.
Libertarian353 wrote:But again since you're against the establishment, you're against the government in general?
That's a bit of a stretch. As I said, I'm not an anarchist. I think the establishment has badly mismanaged things, that they are generally dishonest, and that their boundless ambitions are dangerously counterproductive.
Libertarian353 wrote:So it's just another non-racist turner diaries or Helter Skelter? Again, overall I'm not convince you're a "non-racist" (I remember lurking, you call Obama's wife a monkey, knowing the full racial connections of that term) and your lack of empathy for cop killings.
Calling me a racist is a separate question from a white supremacist. I think all people are racist intrinsically, even if they aren't politically. I think that is hard-wired into human nature. I think the empirical evidence is overwhelming. In fact, I think it is capitalist imperialists that deny this the most loudly along with the communists. Each side wants to rule the entire world and so they embrace every group possible, which is why they embrace Muslims that want to kill them while trashing Christians simultaneously.
As for calling Obama's wife a monkey, I don't recall doing that but I wouldn't run away from it either. That was done against George Bush constantly and it is done against Trump too. What goes around comes around.
As for cops killing blacks, in most of the cases black suspects were non-compliant, resisting arrest, etc. In a few cases, the cops were clearly in the wrong, like the South Carolina cop that shot someone in the back or the cop that stopped a person for a tail light violation and then shot him because he had a concealed carry permit. Those cops should be sent to prison. I don't think what happened to Darren Wilson was even remotely fair.
I have no problem debating race with you, since I think racism is a part of the natural order. It's naturally going to make the communists and the capitalists of the imperialist variety uncomfortable, because I'm keeping to a more scientific position which they find untenable. However, that's also why I think it is pointless supporting them or fighting their wars, since they are essentially going to lose a lot more than they win until they come to terms with reality. We don't need one currency, a world government, a single language, or a single religion. It's pointless. Trade and the law merchant should be sufficient.
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