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By blackjack21
#14879139
While the media thinks they got Donald Trump by Senator Durbin quoting him off the record and apparently inaccurately as saying "shithole countries," I think only Rush Limbaugh has actually provided any real analysis worthy of consideration:

Trump Blows Up the DACA Deal with One Question
I guarantee you the Democrats walked out of that meeting at the White House that was televised salivating. I guarantee you they walked out of that thinking that they were on the verge of getting a deal on two things: the DREAMers, the DACA kids, and comprehensive immigration reform. And, lo and behold, they show up at the White House yesterday with their proposal for a new DACA deal and it is the worst thing in the world. It is absolutely abhorrent. It is nothing that you or anybody with common sense would support.

And what did Donald Trump do? He blew the whole thing up with one question, with one question he blew it up. And you know what the question was? Forget the words used. The question was: Why do you people on the Democrat side want to continue to bring people to this country that are not going to benefit this country? Why instead do you not want to bring the best and brightest of the world to this country? Why is it that you think that we need to bring people to this country who are incapable of helping themselves?


Whereas, for comedy, Mark Dice doesn't even bother to show his face and laugh at the media. He just shows them for who they really are:



Anyway, true to form, the establishment thinks that we're going to abandon Trump on this issue, and once again, they are completely and totally wrong.

Trump's 'shithole' comment denounced across the globe

And of course, Durbin himself illustrates his complete ignorance of American history:

Dick Durbin wrote:“In the course of [Trump’s] comments, [he] said things which were hate-filled, vile and racist,” Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin said Friday morning. “I use those words advisedly. I understand how powerful they are. But I cannot believe that in the history of the White House, in that Oval Office, any president has spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday.”

How does someone this idiotic get elected to high office? It's like he never heard of the Chinese Exclusion Act. It was first proposed and enacted by Republicans to last for ten years. Then, it was made permanent by the Democrats with the Geary Act (Geary street in San Francisco is named for Thomas Geary, by the way).

Does anybody disagree that Haiti is a shithole country?
By Rich
#14879144
Immigration makes the lower and middle class poorer. Only the top 5% gain from immigration. There is a fixed lump of land. Britain is no bigger now than at the time of the Black death. There may be a lot more jobs, but there's no more land. America was a rich country because it had a low population density.

For decades now we've been under attack from the Corporate-Marxist alliance.
By Suntzu
#14879149
Yep, the rich benefit from cheap labor from immigration, which is why both the Republicans and Demokraps favor immigration. Both parties are run by the rich for the rich.
By Rich
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People support mass immigration for different reasons. Corporations and their big shareholders obviously want ever more labour. More labour weakens the power and value of labour, while strengthening the power and value of capital. Libertarians noted the effect of racial divsions in the United States and how it has so weaken socialism, so Libertarians have sought to recreate the racial /ethnic strife of the US in Europe. Libertarians particularly sought to flood Europe with ethnicities that they thought would be parasitic, so there by undermining the support for welfare and social programmes.

Lefties on the other hand, hate the in groups and love the out groups. This is why its always the far left that are the fanatics on immigration. Business loves getting more workers, but business leaders are rationale, they realise that Muslims bring far more problems than they're worth. Plus business leaders usually have some concern for their fellow citizens. The far left on the other hand are insane fanatics and refuse to countenance any controls on immigration.
By foxdemon
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Does anybody disagree that Haiti is a shithole country?



President Macron holds a similar view about Africa, though he used the term “civilizational problems” and “women having 7 or 8 babies” rather than “shithole”.

https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-g20-angry-reaction-to-emmanuel-macrons-remark-that-africa-has-a-civilizational-problem/

And he rejects accusations that his jokes are racist.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-macron-language/whats-wrong-with-a-joke-macron-defends-air-conditioning-gag-in-africa-idUSKBN1DU1TG
By Rugoz
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As the POTUS you're not supposed to call other countries "shitholes". At least not when you know it's going to leak.

Trumpanzees should stop acting as if behaving like a 10 year old brat is some sort of achievement.
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By jimjam
#14879172
The issue has nothing to do with Haiti. It has to do with a shit head discussing shit and bringing the national discourse down to his abysmally low level of consciousness. What's next? "Fucking cock sucker fake news."

My wife, a born again Christian, who voted for Donald commented that she hoped Donald would hurry up and get impeached. I would bet that the Very Stable Genius lost a few votes with this gem.

"We do not recall the president saying these comments" Senator Tom Cotton, Senator David Perdue. I love this one. It illustrates brilliantly the Republican Gutless Wonders. They "do not recall". :lol: :lol: One of a politician's most used lies. I guess they were in the W.C. during the latest performance of The Donald Show. :lol:
By Decky
#14879185
I think the only first world nation happy to leave their own citizens to die on the streets rather than treat them when they are ill is the real shithole country.
By Atlantis
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Rich wrote:Immigration makes the lower and middle class poorer. Only the top 5% gain from immigration. There is a fixed lump of land. Britain is no bigger now than at the time of the Black death. There may be a lot more jobs, but there's no more land. America was a rich country because it had a low population density.

For decades now we've been under attack from the Corporate-Marxist alliance.


Germany welcomed almost 14 million guest workers in the 1960s and 70s. Without them, the so-called "economic miracle" would have been impossible. The "economic miracle" made everybody richer, not just the top echelon of society. Without the migrant workers, German industry would have had to reduce production or shift production off-shore. Once production has been shifted off-shore, as in the de-industrialized North of the UK or the rust belt in the US, the jobs are gone. They won't come back.

Economic inequality has nothing to do with migrants. It depends entirely on the government's policy to regulate the economy so as to reduce social inequality.
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By jimjam
#14879223
Donald could defecate on the White House steps and the right wing propaganda machine would report that he was simply exercising his right to free speech and complaining liberals were just pissed off because Donald won the election. His "base", of course would be ecstatic..
By Suntzu
#14879249
Decky wrote:I think the only first world nation happy to leave their own citizens to die on the streets rather than treat them when they are ill is the real shithole country.


Which country would that be?

Certainly ain't the U.S.
By Suntzu
#14879257
The healthcare cartel in the U.S. is really fuck up. We pay about double what any other civilized country pays. That said, who is too poor to be on Medicaid? Who can't find their way to an emergency room? Why should I have to pay for your healthcare until you have used all your resources?
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Suntzu wrote:The healthcare cartel in the U.S. is really fuck up.


That's what happens when you vote to spite Blacks, you end up with a decrease white population, an opioid crises, and suicides.

But hey fuck Blacks right?

Suntzu wrote:We pay about double what any other civilized country pays.


And who fault is that?

Suntzu wrote:That said, who is too poor to be on Medicaid?


Us mostly considering we're the dwindling population.
Suntzu wrote:Why should I have to pay for your healthcare until you have used all your resources?


Cause we pay for other useless shit, that you don't care about obviously. So why should we care about your complaints?
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By Libertarian353
#14879262
blackjack21 wrote:Does anybody disagree that Haiti is a shithole country?


You really hate Blacks that badly, smh. For man who knows alot about white history, you're ignorant on white policy of Africa and Haiti.

"The long and the short of it is that Haiti was paying reparations to France from 1825 until 1947," says Von Tunzelmann. "To come up with the money, it took out huge loans from American, German and French banks, at exorbitant rates of interest. By 1900, Haiti was spending about 80% of its national budget on loan repayments. It ­completely wrecked their economy. By the time the original reparations and interest were paid off, the place was basically destitute and trapped in a ­spiral of debt. Plus, a succession of leaders had more or less given up on trying to resolve Haiti's problems, and started looting it instead."

The closing decades, though, of the 19th century did at least mark a period of relative stability. Haitian culture flourished, an intelligentsia emerged, and the sugar and rum industries started to grow once more. But then in 1911 came another revolution, followed almost immediately by nearly 20 years of occu­pation by a US terrified that Haiti was about to default on its massive debts. The Great Depression devastated the country's exports." ..... From the Guardian.

You Blackjack, we just hate losing so we sabotage other people successes and say they did it. It's our nature to hate and envy those who are better than us. Black under segregation had Black towns, business, money and we took that all away cause we're scared of that.

See, I know you're not a good person, but at least own up that you just want a race war. Like, everyone knows you're a racist and making Black miserable is our pleasure, but at least own up to degenerate values.
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By Suntzu
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Libertarian353 wrote:You really hate Blacks that badly, smh. For man who knows alot about white history, you're ignorant on white policy of Africa and Haiti.


But do you disagree that Haiti is a shithole country? Have you ever wondered why The Dominican Republic, that shares the island of Hispanola, is so different?
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Suntzu wrote:But do you disagree that Haiti is a shithole country? Have you ever wondered why The Dominican Republic, that shares the island of Hispanola, is so different?


You ignore that Dominicans were benefited by CIA money and politics during the Cold War, while Haiti was still in debt to whites. You also forget the 22 year occupation by Haiti to DR to pay for those debts. You forget the US occupation, you see how it all goes to us?

The Dominicans look no different than your Afro-Americans. Are you denying one drop rule now, when it's convenient? One drop and your full Black, so take that logic and accept that Dominican Republic is just Haiti if it wasn't sabotage by whites.
By Suntzu
#14879274
I am denying the one drop rule. Blackness is a continuum. What do you get when you mix a population with an average I.Q. of 70 with one of 100? Obviously more Whiteness = smarter. Fredrick Douglas was half White. I think the average Black American is 20% White.

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