Drlee wrote:No one has addressed my question about what happens when the woman initiates the offer for sex. No condemnation for that even though it harms the "nice girls" who want the part.
As in if an actress was trying to seduce possible employers for roles and career advantages?
There would be no crime because from such a description one would assume consent.
Even with a power disparity or what ever one want's to emphasize wouldn't negate it, and nor should it necessarily.
As considered with the Tavis Smiley example where it seems he was fired for consensual sex with employees. Where he asserts that whilst it's not encouraged it is not forbidden, which seems agreeable. It's outside the realm of law and is only concerned with ethics of a company. Like how one there can be consensual sex between a professor and university student, but it still basis for firing due to standards of conduct for the profession.
Sure one could condemn them advancing such women advancing their careers that way, but comparable to the subject of allegations of harassment and sexual violence, it seems minor relatively due to it not being as morally problematic, lacking the same moral weight.
Unless one presumes some allegations false and are characteristic of career advancement via sexual favours, or the more malicious intent of advancing their career somehow through allegations. Though this intention seems more murky as I'm not sure how such allegations improve one's career prospects.
But people trading sexual favours seems distinct from criminal allegations, as they'd be more on ethical grounds than legal ones if both parties are consenting. It offends a sense of meritocracy, but it doesn't necessarily break the law.
But if one's thought is that sexual harassment is in part promoted by a subcultural norm where sexual favours become common place for work favours, so much so, that it becomes expected of actors. Then it could be that such a problem is difficult to root out because the ethical standards such as in the case of a teacher and uni student may be difficult to apply to the weird world of Hollywood.
But then this may be a big shake up moment, which is why I think its going to the point that people are scared of the cases that are included. Because like in say a revolution, a lot of innocent people die, because the build up is explosive, which then creates the reaction that tries to die that thing down, to stabilize it within certain limits.
because it seems that many people in Hollywood already knew a lot of the things as rumors, but now aired as true stories, they got a different character to them, makes it more real I guess. Lot of folks speaking up about things they never did.
That at the very least I imagine some are in want of some accountability in the case of crimes.
The NYPD is gathering evidence to arrest Harvey Weinstein for rapeNYPD calls Harvey Weinstein rape allegation credible, says it's gathering evidence for arrestIf that can't be addressed, then I'm not sure a culture of debauchery could be handled. Can't make people scared for when they do wrong, then its a struggle to try and compel them to do right when they lack the moral character they should have in the first place.
https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/For%20Ethical%20Politics.pdf#page90
-For Ethical Politics