Heisenberg wrote:Given that the EU's foreign minister appeared in Kiev encouraging the protests against Yanukovych in 2014, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say the EU was keen on prising Ukraine away from Russia.
I have a general policy of not feeding the trolls, but just for the record:
Washington/Warsaw/UK have tried to pull Ukraine into Nato and the EU since 2008:
Bush Pressing NATO to Set Membership Path for Ukraine, GeorgiaConfidential cables from the US embassy in Warsaw revealed that the US had been using Warsaw to influence EU policy in its attempts to pull Ukraine away from Russia. Said cables also reveal that the US knew perfectly well that the Russians would have to respond by military measures. The Anglo imperialists deliberately triggered the Ukraine crisis.
Both Germany and France have followed a policy of vetoing Ukraine EU and Nato membership since 2008 because they know that it would lead to a major confrontation with Russia.
NATO Allies Oppose Bush on Georgia and UkraineThat hasn't stopped the US from spending 5 billion USD to overthrow Yanukovych. Three European foreign ministers and Putin's envoy were in Kiev to broker a deal between Yanukovych and the protesters. After the foreign ministers left, the deal was violated by the protesters instigated by a small and violent group of fascists funded by the US.
When the EU tried to broker a deal in Ukraine, the US Assistent Secretary of State Victoria Nuland said "fuck the EU" and went ahead with toppling the Kiev government and naming a new PM before Yanukovych had even fled the country.
Following the rapprochement between Russia and the EU in the wake of the Iraq war, the US decided to start another war in Europe.
Following the infamous role Warsaw has played in Kiev, Poland has been excluded from the Minsk peace talks, which doesn't really matter now the PiSsers have gone all retard and even picked a fight with Ukraine.
Closet imperialists like Heisenberg will rewrite history to suit the empire. You are not satisfied with spreading death and terror until you are wading ankle-deep in blood, you also have to blame the victims for your crimes.
You have no shame and your imperial narrative is getting so thin that you have to invent the most desperate of lies. History won't take a kind view of the perfidious Albion.
Beren wrote:Germany and and the EU are most naturally interested in Russia, not Ukraine, they wouldn't give a shit about Ukraine if it hurts their relations with Russia.
At the Munich security conference, the German foreign minister said yesterday that a gradual lifting of the sanctions is possible if we see some progress in the Minsk 2 peace process. The ball is in Putin's court.
You're there for the same reason as the EU imposed sanctions on Russia: That's what vassals do.
The Brits believe they are the favorite lap dogs of the Yankees. What they don't know is that the orange ape thinks that dogs are just dogs - something to kick out off the way.