[4cal]

The Atlantic City casinos. The Plaza Hotel. The inability to borrow a thin dime from New York banks. Enter the Russian financiers.

I'm pretty sure I know where this is headed.

And then our nation will be forced to reckon with the question of how so many were so foolishly duped by the grifter and his Republican cabal of goons and cowards.

It will be very ugly.

Trump has made the transition from pathos to bathos. He's still ranting against Hillary Clinton. He's throwing punches in the ring, but his opponent left long ago. Trump poses a clear and present danger to himself, the rest of us and our nation.

I know right? The trump people, obviously not too bright, would benefit to recall that Kenneth Starr was appointed to investigate Whitewater...not Monica.

The money laundering charges are especially interesting. Gee, who do you think these guys were doing the laundry for?

The longer it goes, the dirtier Trump gets and the more desperate his supporters become. Last week, they were stating that his sleeping with another woman while married was just natural....

[colliric]

Desperate Trump Supporters?

Doesn't sound like a desperate situation to me....

Sounds like VICTORY AGAIN!

[blackjack21]

I think the Mueller tarnishment campaign is failing, Trump approval rating just jumped to 50%.

His popularity is definitely growing. As people have more in their paychecks--especially the working class--Trump's popularity will continue to grow.

This ongoing Trump/Establishment spat is allowing Trump to frame his anti-establishment election campaign as a long-term policy.

It's happening from the other side as well. California Democrats refused to endorse Diane Feinstein--who's way too old to be running again, but that's how it goes. California Democratic Party declines to endorse Dianne Feinstein in re-election bid If that type of thing continues, we'll have to open up a new thread. There's the obvious reason that they need to get some new blood into their ranks. It could be the new anti-Israel vein of the Democratic party. It could be the anti-snooping/spying on Americans stuff too. We shall see.

You keep saying that. The way they just keep getting indictments is total fail.

Yeah. Maybe Mueller should start giving out speeding tickets to show he's really doing something meaningful.

The Atlantic City casinos. The Plaza Hotel. The inability to borrow a thin dime from New York banks. Enter the Russian financiers.

Again, that's not criminal.

And then our nation will be forced to reckon with the question of how so many were so foolishly duped by the grifter and his Republican cabal of goons and cowards.

Nobody is duped. We voted for Trump as a "fuck you" to the establishment. Why you guys don't get that is beyond me.

He's still ranting against Hillary Clinton.

She was part of the cabal that put forward a special counsel on the cooked up Russia bullshit when they were colluding with Russians on this dossier. We all know the "he's been discredited" game. We're tired of it now. We could care less what Mueller comes up with.

The longer it goes, the dirtier Trump gets and the more desperate his supporters become. Last week, they were stating that his sleeping with another woman while married was just natural....

It's just sex. That's what you all said about Bill Clinton. At least Donald Trump is getting a pretty hot piece of ass compared to all the left overs Bill Clinton was chasing down. Although, Bill must have had some self-esteem issues. He married that foul smelling hag Hillary after all.

Democrats: "Gay rights! If you don't stand with us, you're a homophobe. Russia! Trump is Putin's cock holster! Disgusting pervert!"

[Hong Wu]

I do suspect that Trump gets far enough past 50% that even most left-leaning pollsters have to place him at 50%. It would cause a real meltdown. And since the Democrats are under orders not to let muh Russia go, there is no real avenue of attack against Trump, no way for them to stop it from happening

So who's taking the bullet in 2020? My money is still on Oprah because she's essentially expendable. It would let them claim racism and sexism without making any actual politicians lose.

[jimjam]

Nobody is duped. We voted for Trump as a "fuck you" to the establishment. Why you guys don't get that is beyond me

Sounds like you have been duped into thinking that "nobody" has been duped. That Donald is a lying con artist (and a very good one at that) is plain as day. Guess what con artists do? I won't give you the answer.

I understand and agree with your rage against the machine. Donald obviously delivers a simple message for simple minds but, come on, you are a bright guy.

Again, that's not criminal.

I did not say it was "criminal" but it sure as hell is interesting. I, for one, am curious to see where Donald's partiality for Russian mobsters leads

Yeah. Maybe Mueller should start giving out speeding tickets to show he's really doing something meaningful.

Perhaps after he finishing draining the swamp he will but, for now, it seems to be "Swamp Creature of The Week".

As people have more in their paychecks

How much more? No antidotal evidence please.

His popularity is definitely growing

Fox Fake News: 43%, Gallup: 40%

She (Hillary) was part of the cabal that put forward a special counsel on the cooked up Russia bullshit when they were colluding with Russians on this dossier

Ummm............... she has left the stage. Nobody save the rabid Donald fans give a shit for this rather obvious diversionary tatic.

[annatar1914]

Ummm............... she has left the stage. Nobody save the rabid Donald fans give a shit for this rather obvious diversionary tatic.

The ''Diversion'' is all on your ideological side, cooked up when it dawned on these hubristic and corrupt politicians that Trump was going to win. But then, you folks never learn, not having the slightest understanding that Trump's win was inevitable, as the Plutocrats were bound to eventually see that they're killing the goose that is laying the golden eggs, the Working people of America. Meanwhile, your side is lost in the swamp of diversionary and divisive identity politics, of holding to degenerate bourgeosie behaviors instead of actually caring about real people, not freaks and people who bring a reactionary sensibility into immigrating into the First World.

[jimjam]

The ''Diversion'' is all on your ideological side, cooked up when it dawned on these hubristic and corrupt politicians that Trump was going to win. But then, you folks never learn, not having the slightest understanding that Trump's win was inevitable, as the Plutocrats were bound to eventually see that they're killing the goose that is laying the golden eggs, the Working people of America. Meanwhile, your side is lost in the swamp of diversionary and divisive identity politics, of holding to degenerate bourgeosie behaviors instead of actually caring about real people, not freaks and people who bring a reactionary sensibility into immigrating into the First World.

This is myopic, self serving and simple minded. Because I have an opinion that differs from your opinion you have apparently assigned me to a "side" and placed all sorts of ideas on my agenda. All I said was that Donald's endless blathering about Hillary is just a very obvious tactic to divert the heat and you go on and
on with a jumble of nonsense that I never said:" the swamp of diversionary and divisive identity politics" , "holding to degenerate bourgeosie behaviors" , "people who bring a reactionary sensibility into immigrating into the First World" ,"these hubristic and corrupt politicians " .

Give it a rest Jack ............... I don't have a "side". I simply have an opinion that you disagree with.To divide all Americans amongst 2 sides implies that Americans cannot think for themselves and simply regurgitate whatever their "side" feeds them.

[annatar1914]

This is myopic, self serving and simple minded. Because I have an opinion that differs from your opinion you have apparently assigned me to a "side" and placed all sorts of ideas on my agenda. All I said was that Donald's endless blathering about Hillary is just a very obvious tactic to divert the heat and you go on and
on with a jumble of nonsense that I never said:" the swamp of diversionary and divisive identity politics" , "holding to degenerate bourgeosie behaviors" , "people who bring a reactionary sensibility into immigrating into the First World" ,"these hubristic and corrupt politicians " .

Give it a rest Jack ............... I don't have a "side". I simply have an opinion that you disagree with.To divide all Americans amongst 2 sides implies that Americans cannot think for themselves and simply regurgitate whatever their "side" feeds them.

Years ago, I've read your posts and even had friendly exchanges with you in the past. That being said, you can't entirely deny that you would be more comfortable with Hillary Clinton or Barack H. Obama in office than President Trump. Keep also in mind that being of a Collectivist and Anti-Capitalist bent, I'm not exactly a cheerleader for Trump or American ''Conservatism'', except to note that you folks attack the ''right'' in America precisely where it is most Revolutionary. Curious thing, that... But hardly noticed amid the noise.

Trump projects ''WWE loud mouth asshole'' in his Neuro-Linguistic Programming with his enemies, while he quietly pushes an agenda that reminds one more of Ayn Rand. Brilliant. His enemies won't see it and adapt and plan accordingly until it's too late to stop.

[Stormsmith]

Mueller's giving "deals" to a heck of a lot of people, all of whom have proven themselves liars. This makes me wonder if (1) being a liar is a prerequisite for being in Trump's camp and (2) who's in hot water deeper, Trump or Kushner, both also proven liars.

[4cal]

Mueller's giving "deals" to a heck of a lot of people, all of whom have proven themselves liars. This makes me wonder if (1) being a liar is a prerequisite for being in Trump's camp and (2) who's in hot water deeper, Trump or Kushner, both also proven liars.

Obviously, to support Trump, you have to lie to yourself on almost an hourly basis to rationalize the almost daily loads of sleaze. Twenty-four months ago, the GOP was about debt relief, family values, and growing the economy at the expense of poor people in every way, shape, and fashion. Today, debt is applauded, family values are something for Saturday morning cartoons, and as long as poor people are adversely affected by the policy, there is no prerequisite for their policies to have any benefit at all.

Are all republicans like this? No. But the ones that are not have no problem with the sleezeball they have for a President and if their values have to be flushed down the toilet to rationalize their cowardice...so be it.

[4cal]

Desperate Trump Supporters?

Doesn't sound like a desperate situation to me....

Sounds like VICTORY AGAIN!

Hillary got more votes than your pervert/messiah.

He he he

[jimjam]

Years ago, I've read your posts and even had friendly exchanges with you in the past. That being said, you can't entirely deny that you would be more comfortable with Hillary Clinton or Barack H. Obama in office than President Trump. Keep also in mind that being of a Collectivist and Anti-Capitalist bent, I'm not exactly a cheerleader for Trump or American ''Conservatism'', except to note that you folks attack the ''right'' in America precisely where it is most Revolutionary. Curious thing, that... But hardly noticed amid the noise.

Trump projects ''WWE loud mouth asshole'' in his Neuro-Linguistic Programming with his enemies, while he quietly pushes an agenda that reminds one more of Ayn Rand. Brilliant. His enemies won't see it and adapt and plan accordingly until it's too late to stop.

I also have noticed how Trump uses his loud and abrasive actions to mask an ill defined but definite agenda.

I am sorry annatar but I do not recall our exchanges. On a personal note, I have in the past year suffered seizures which have compromised my memory. I apologize for my abruptness but I detest being grouped in one or the other of the great divide which has gripped America. It supposes an inability to engage in independent thinking on my part to which I am, obviously, overly sensitive.

[jimjam]

As people have more in their paychecks--especially the working class--Trump's popularity will continue to grow.

After President Trump signed the Republican tax cut into law, companies put out cheery announcements that they were giving workers bonuses because of their expected windfalls from the tax reductions. The president and Republican lawmakers quickly held up these news releases as vindication for their argument that cutting the top federal corporate tax rate to 21 percent, from 35 percent, would boost workers’ incomes even as it added $1.5 trillion to the debt that future generations would have to pay off.

Now corporate announcements and analyst reports confirm what honest observers always said — this claim is pure fantasy. Businesses are buying back shares, which creates demand for the stocks, boosts share prices and benefits investors. Some of the cash is going to increase dividends. And a chunk will go to acquiring other businesses, creating larger corporations that face less competition.

In addition to benefiting investors, these maneuvers will end up boosting the pay of top executives because their compensation packages are often tied to the price of their companies’ stock.

The suckers are conned again (and again, and again ........) .

[annatar1914]

I also have noticed how Trump uses his loud and abrasive actions to mask an ill defined but definite agenda.

I am sorry annatar but I do not recall our exchanges. On a personal note, I have in the past year suffered seizures which have compromised my memory. I apologize for my abruptness but I detest being grouped in one or the other of the great divide which has gripped America. It supposes an inability to engage in independent thinking on my part to which I am, obviously, overly sensitive.

No need to be sorry or to apologize, it's been over three years and the world is a fast paced and crazy place these days:-)

And, my memory itself gives me problems sometimes, so please don't feel too bad. We're both human, and such is the human condition I think, we just do the best we can I imagine.

Carry on, good sir:-)

[Hindsite]

Russiagate debunked by NSA Whistleblower Willian Binney

DNC server not hacked by Russians.

[Beren]

That Donald is a lying con artist (and a very good one at that) is plain as day.

I wonder if he's really that good and could do the same in any other developed country or the USA is just really fucked up.

[Hindsite]

CIA Spy Chief:
"I would not be surprised if Mueller determines Trump did not collude with the Russians."

Published on Dec 17, 2017

"Is This Your Punishment??" Tucker Questions Jill Stein About Her Russia Probe

Published on Dec 21, 2017

Jill Stein Smacks Down MSNBC Host Over Russian Propaganda

Published on Feb 20, 2018

[Hong Wu]

The Jill Stein thing has been great for Trump. It drives home the point of how it's normal for a Presidential candidate to have some contact with large foreign countries, at the same time not even the most hardened shills want to claim she's a Russian agent.

[blackjack21]

Mueller's giving "deals" to a heck of a lot of people, all of whom have proven themselves liars. This makes me wonder if (1) being a liar is a prerequisite for being in Trump's camp and (2) who's in hot water deeper, Trump or Kushner, both also proven liars.

What he is doing is trying to assemble a chorus of liars to tell lies about Trump in hopes that we will believe the convicted liars all singing the same tune. If he wanted to get rid of Trump, he would do better to craft a conspiracy theory that ties him to the Clintons and says that Trump is really just a stooge for the Clintons, etc. If they could catch him doing some transgender stuff or uncover a secret gay lover or something, maybe they could get somewhere. In the age of gay marriage, that Trump likes to fuck porn stars is reassuring to us heterosexuals.

Obviously, to support Trump, you have to lie to yourself on almost an hourly basis to rationalize the almost daily loads of sleaze.

I don't. If Trump pisses you off, I like Trump. I don't really care what he does on a personal level, but if it pisses you off then I like him for it. The tax cuts are all around a good thing. Mildly rich millionaire Democrats finally got the tax increase they have been asking for, which is nice. Maybe they'll put a sock in it soon enough.

Hillary got more votes than your pervert/messiah.

He he he

First she lost to a black man with no legislative accomplishments and no executive experience. Then, she lost to a white man with no experience in elective office. He he he! There is just one word for Hillary: Loser!

After President Trump signed the Republican tax cut into law, companies put out cheery announcements that they were giving workers bonuses because of their expected windfalls from the tax reductions. The president and Republican lawmakers quickly held up these news releases as vindication for their argument that cutting the top federal corporate tax rate to 21 percent, from 35 percent, would boost workers’ incomes even as it added $1.5 trillion to the debt that future generations would have to pay off.

While you may not remember, I graduated with a degree in business with a 4.0 GPA and summa cum laude honors. The problem with the regulatory state is that it impedes the velocity of money, which acts as a massive hidden tax on the economy. Trump is changing that regulatory framework, and as the velocity of money accelerates so does GDP. In other words, the tax cuts will pay for themselves. These things go hand in hand. That's why Bush wasn't as successful with it, because the Bush family is for big business and creating regulatory barriers to entry for small business. Wipe that stuff off the books, and you get a roaring economy.

Now corporate announcements and analyst reports confirm what honest observers always said — this claim is pure fantasy. Businesses are buying back shares, which creates demand for the stocks, boosts share prices and benefits investors.

Right. I have a $300k position in my company I can't just sell, as they are stock options. So naturally, I'm thrilled with what Trump is doing.

[4cal]

What he is doing is trying to assemble a chorus of liars to tell lies about Trump in hopes that we will believe the convicted liars all singing the same tune. If he wanted to get rid of Trump, he would do better to craft a conspiracy theory that ties him to the Clintons and says that Trump is really just a stooge for the Clintons, etc. If they could catch him doing some transgender stuff or uncover a secret gay lover or something, maybe they could get somewhere. In the age of gay marriage, that Trump likes to fuck porn stars is reassuring to us heterosexuals.


I don't. If Trump pisses you off, I like Trump. I don't really care what he does on a personal level, but if it pisses you off then I like him for it. The tax cuts are all around a good thing. Mildly rich millionaire Democrats finally got the tax increase they have been asking for, which is nice. Maybe they'll put a sock in it soon enough.


First she lost to a black man with no legislative accomplishments and no executive experience. Then, she lost to a white man with no experience in elective office. He he he! There is just one word for Hillary: Loser!


While you may not remember, I graduated with a degree in business with a 4.0 GPA and summa cum laude honors. The problem with the regulatory state is that it impedes the velocity of money, which acts as a massive hidden tax on the economy. Trump is changing that regulatory framework, and as the velocity of money accelerates so does GDP. In other words, the tax cuts will pay for themselves. These things go hand in hand. That's why Bush wasn't as successful with it, because the Bush family is for big business and creating regulatory barriers to entry for small business. Wipe that stuff off the books, and you get a roaring economy.


Right. I have a $300k position in my company I can't just sell, as they are stock options. So naturally, I'm thrilled with what Trump is doing.

he he he….nothing pushes the buttons of a Trump neanderthal than reminding them that Hillary got more votes than their messiah. You guys are easily programmed.