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layman wrote:Saudi is moving in the right direction just painfully slowly.
Rancid wrote:Trump is certainly not a dictator. The constitution has not been overturned, and the courts haven't been uprooted.
That said, Mr. Trump is certainly a buffoon.
As long as there are buildings still standing and babies not slaughtered you will not relent in your
He is fooling you all by projecting the image of a buffoon just like Boris Johnson in the UK.
layman wrote:He seems like a reformer to me but time will tell.
Saudi is moving in the right direction just painfully slowly. It is probably preferable to a civil war which could well end in a full blown Islamist theocracy.
Atlantis wrote:...after dealing with the US for a hundred years, there is nothing in Yankee vulgarity that could possibly shock the Saudis.
Rancid wrote:Trump is certainly not a dictator. The constitution has not been overturned, and the courts haven't been uprooted.
skinster wrote:You/we live in a one-party dictatorship with two parties which are basically two sides of the same coin, which serve corporations, the end.
skinster wrote:KSA hasn't been dealing with the US for hundreds of years. It's existed for less than a hundred years.
Saudi Arabia is already Islamist theocracy.
Atlantis wrote:But they have found ways of subverting the pillars of democracy such as a free press, the independence of the judiciary and the independence of the central bank.
skinster wrote:You/we live in a one-party dictatorship with two parties that are basically the same and which are basically two sides of the same coin, which serve corporations, the end.
blackjack21 wrote:What the fuck! Seriously?
Private central banks making policy that isn't subject to legislative or executive oversight is a foundation of democracy?
layman wrote:
Not really but whatever you call it,it can always get worse.
Crantag wrote:A generalized case against overthrowing governments in the interests of maintaining stability can be made. That isn't the prevailing practice upheld by the Anglosphere. The Saudis are propped up for reasons having nothing to do with the maintaining of stability and it seems unuseful to conflate policy toward the Saudis with any such notions of such ideals. One could possibly talk about stability in the context of Saudi Arabia with respect to oil prices.
On a peripheral point, ever notice the practice of US presidents flying to Saudi Arabia as soon as they take office? That's one of tje first things Trump did.
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