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Cuban Theater Director Adonis Milan Released by State Security
HAVANA TIMES – I just spoke with Cuban theater director Adonis Milan. He was detained incommunicado until early Monday morning when he was released under a heavy downpour.

Other activists were kidnapped and jailed in order to isolate and thereby prevent them from carrying out activities they had scheduled for Sunday, Election Day.

It was not the first visit of Milan to a Cuban jail and once again he described the anti-hygienic conditions as well as the terrible food that they offer to the inmates.

After his abduction off the street on Saturday afternoon, his name was not among the list of detainees in any police station where his mother went to look for him.

In the same way, friends and colleagues demanded an answer to the disappearance of Milan and they were denied any information.

Once again I repudiate his kidnapping and I condemn the impunity of these events that only demonstrates the will of the Cuban government not to admit any change or demand that comes spontaneously.
https://www.havanatimes.org/?p=131238
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Sivad, while it's sad to read that anyone is put into a jail, the fact remains that the USA is number one on Earth for putting the highest percentage of its own population into jail.

Do you have any other points? Is it because the food isn't great in Cuban prisons that we should admire capitalism and all the four-star multi-course meals it puts into prisons in El Salvador and Colombia?
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QatzelOk wrote:Sivad, while it's sad to read that anyone is put into a jail, the fact remains that the USA is number one on Earth for putting the highest percentage of its own population into jail.


It's sad to read such shameful dishonesty. There's no equivalence between the US criminal justice system and the Cuban regime's brutal systematic repression of its citizenry.

And Cuba has a comparable incarceration rate to the US at 510 per 100,000. :lol:
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Ricardo is serving three years for "pre-criminal dangerousness" - he was locked up for being unemployed and associating with "dangerous elements" :lol:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-22365244

Social dangerousness or Pre-criminal danger to society is a legal charge under Cuban law which allows the authorities to detain people who they think are likely to commit crimes. The charge carries a penalty of up to four years in prison.[1] The Cuban government has been accused by Amnesty International of using the charge almost exclusively against critics of the government.[2]

People that have been imprisoned under this charge include:

Raymundo Perdigon Brito sentenced to four years in prison on 5 December 2006.[3]
José Oscar Sánchez Madan, sentenced to four years in prison[4][2]
Guillermo Espinosa Rodríguez, sentenced to two years of house arrest[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dangerousness
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It goes without saying that what we have here in Cuba isn’t socialism or communism, but the State’s monopoly of pure and crude capitalism, where an elite conglomerated into a Party hierarchy owns every mode of production and employs the rest of the population using the extremely capitalist wages system, taking control of what Marx called “surplus”.

Of course they cover the costs of education and healthcare, culture and pensions, national defense and repression with a part of this surplus. Without some expenditure they couldn’t hold onto the power of managing the fruits of every Cuban’s labor without reporting back to anyone and to top that off, hoping that we thank them for their infinite kindness.
https://www.havanatimes.org/?p=131250




They were happy and our hungry faces were left out of sight.
They entered with these two guys and another one who stands outside the store entrance. There were four of them, two women and two guys, with their three bodyguards. They were all Cuban, but from another planet. I will dare to make a guess and say that they were some general or generals’ children or even Fidel’s or Raul’s own kids. And they suddenly had everything available to them.

I wanted to watch, so we sat on the stairs blocking the way. Other people watched them too. Those four were there for half an hour easily (like I said, the store was in a house so that section was a 5m by 6m room, and they chose and tried on everything they liked and two sale assistants bagged everything up for them.

I can tell you they chose some items, at least six or seven things each, I can’t tell you what they got though. However, the thing that really struck me, and I was paying close attention to everything so I didn’t miss it I swear, was that they didn’t take what they had chosen to the cash register. They never paid. They finished getting what they wanted, they opened the door, they left and that was that.

The sound I remember from that time was that every single one of them was pulling along a suitcase, with no care in the world like someone who lives in their own little bubble, and they were bumping and hitting every stair as they went past in rhythm. They were happy and our hungry faces were left out of sight.
https://www.havanatimes.org/?p=132074
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skinster wrote:Sivad, what is it that you're trying to say? Are you saying that Cuba is bad? :?:


No, Cuba is obviously bad. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with you people, what goes on in your minds. How did you get like this? Is it too late for you? Can people at this advanced stage of pathological denial be brought back to reality? Can you be deprogrammed? Would it make a difference or would you just plunge into another delusion?

This guy seems pretty good. :excited:


I'm sure you do have a great affinity for el presidente.
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Sivad wrote:No, Cuba is obviously bad. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with you people, what goes on in your minds. How did you get like this? Is it too late for you? Can people at this advanced stage of pathological denial be brought back to reality? Can you be deprogrammed?

Actually visiting Cuba with an open mind is probably what made me so delusional.

It seems that you, Sivad, avoided delusions by forming your opinions on the solid bedrock reality that is commercial media propaganda, whereas losers like me get swept away in the illusions of our own five senses.

Maybe someone should write a book about how mass media leads to knowing the world better than actually living in it does. They can name it after the year Israel was created, but with a few numbers reversed.
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QatzelOk wrote:Actually visiting Cuba with an open mind is probably what made me so delusional.


You can try to hide behind sarcasm but it's obvious you don't have a balanced perspective. You ignore what actual Cubans in Cuba are saying about life in Cuba and pretend that you're some kind of authority on the subject because you were a tourist there for a couple weeks. It's asinine.
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Sivad wrote:You can try to hide behind sarcasm but it's obvious you don't have a balanced perspective. You ignore what actual Cubans in Cuba are saying about life in Cuba and pretend that you're some kind of authority on the subject because you were a tourist there for a couple weeks. It's asinine.


Please note that you are also ignoring what actual Cubans in Cuba are saying. You also make declarations about Cuba, and you make these claims based solely on media reports, since you presumably have not ever been to Cuba.

Considering the history of US involvement in Latin America, its anti-Communist stance, the numerous CIA attacks against Castro and Cuba, and the history of US agents working with media to conspire against South and Central American governments, it makes no sense to assume that the few media sources you use to support your declarations are free of bias.
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