jimjam wrote:Whoa .......... hold the phone. This completely mystifies me ( ). I think "according to Clapper" insinuates that Russia did not interfere in the election and then, in the same sentence, "who failed to stop it", which insinuates that Russia did interfere in the election. :?:
Are you really going to hold that the US can do things like invade Iraq to change its government, take sides in a civil war in Libya, oust a democratically elected but pro-Russian leader in Ukraine, and then say that if some other country does the same sort of thing in the US that it is utterly unprecedented in all of human civilization? We interfere in the politics of other countries constantly. It should not come as a surprise if other countries interfere in ours as well. However, if you wanted to address Russia interfering in US politics, you really need to be investigating Hillary Clinton and her husband rather than Donald Trump. That's something anyone with any degree of sense can figure out.
jimjam wrote:I suspect that if you deign to rebut this, you will bring up Hillary's emails or how Obama ..... (fill in the blank).
Hillary's emails were about her own disregard of reasonable security precautions, especially if you are representing the most powerful country in the world. There is no question she was hacked, and that has much more to do with Hillary than with the Russians. It's one thing if someone breaks a window on your car and hot wires your ignition to steal your car. It's another thing if you leave the car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, which is more or less the analogy that applies to Hillary Clinton and her devil-may-care attitude about security. As for Obama, I don't think he matters much in the equation, since I think he was easily outmatched by Putin every time. I figure Obama for a cocaine head--someone who thinks he's much smarter than he really is because of the drugs he's on.
jimjam wrote:How's the weight loss program coming?
15 pounds off, 8 pounds right back on again. Better than I was, but man do I have an efficient metabolism.
Stormsmith wrote:To me, I wondered why Putin gave refuge to Snowden.
To embarrass Obama, who took it in the ass like that was a good thing. Putin knew Obama was a twink, and did his anti-gay propaganda thing just to piss Obama off.
Stormsmith wrote:As a result, you surrendered your sovereignty to an ancient cheater and liar who has stolen your healthcare, your resources, is putting your environment @risk, and has stuffed your cabinet with utter vipers all because morons were manipulated into electing this illiterate, self serving twat.
Trump has done almost nothing to ObamaCare. The mandate will expire in a few years, but the rest of its bloated corpse remains. He hasn't stolen any resources. He is allowing industry to explore energy. He's unshackled the coal industry. We have 3 consecutive quarters of 3%+ GDP growth, which is better than the entire Obama presidency and the last few years of Bush's.
Stormsmith wrote:It is the Trump followers who are the losers, and the insane thing is, rather than seeking solutions to America 's problems, they openly claim their intention, their game plan if you will, was to elect a moron who would leave Washington in ashes.
I'm at least $100k+ richer than I would have been without Trump. So I'm just fine thanks. However, putting Washington cronies on the ash heap of history where they belong is a good thing. I find it amusing that people like you lament America, but then defend its establishment with aplomb. That's why I get such a kick out of jimjam defending Jeff Bezos--the richest man in the world.
Stormsmith wrote:My guess is he deeply regrets Trump's 16 or so months of complete lack of action far more.
Trump shut down the Russian consulates in San Francisco and Seattle, which is where they used to steal our high tech secrets. It's more than Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama did--even Reagan for that matter.
Stormsmith wrote:PS just hope Mueller is draining the swamp.
He is the swamp. The irony of it is that he signed off on the Russians acquiring US uranium stocks, as if that is somehow less of a risk than a bunch of idiots protesting in front of Trump tower.
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