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Albert wrote:I believe at some point it will finally dawn on everyone how stupid this whole thing is. It might take a long time, but it will happen eventually. It is hard to accept that MC is destructive because how can something that be so devastating be done with good intention? This is hard for most people to see. On top of that it is just hard reality for anyone to accept. Ironically as long as people shy away form this realization the worst conditions do become for everyone.


The outlook for Europe is not optimistic. I don't think they will have a sudden realisation that this is a bad idea. It is more likely that conditions will reach such a shocking point that only then will they come to their senses. But by then it will already be too late. Young Europeans, along with their baby boomer parents actively support MC along with all their other lunatic opinions. We are not dealing with serious peoples, Albert. They became people who only live for pleasure and career. Badly educated as well, they do not read serious non-fiction books, do not study history or the humanities and get their political opinions from journalists rather than through their own multi-faceted study. It's a dangerous mixture of intellectual laziness, childishness and extreme individualism.

And I have noticed that many of the millenials are some of the most extreme. It's as if they simply do not want to grow up and a lot of them seem to hold some sort of grievance against Western society. I mean you still have adults who dress up as anime characters or who got to Harry Potter conventions. What sort of society is this? It is not sustainable. These values are not sustainable.

Albert wrote:The worst part of it all is that it will take generation or two to heal form this. I can see this with Russian society, the older generations who grew up in communism are messed up. Similar will happen to western generations.


It will not heal. The destruction is already too much. But we must not give up hope. Hope is last to die.

Well most of the Russian middle age men seem like normal people to me. I like them. What is wrong with that generation in your opinion? I see no problems in them.

And Russia is much more serious than the West. Russian values are superior. Russians are rediscovering the Orthodox faith which is wonderful.
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Political Interest wrote:The outlook for Europe is not optimistic. I don't think they will have a sudden realisation that this is a bad idea. It is more likely that conditions will reach such a shocking point that only then will they come to their senses. But by then it will already be too late. Young Europeans, along with their baby boomer parents actively support MC along with all their other lunatic opinions. We are not dealing with serious peoples, Albert. They became people who only live for pleasure and career. Badly educated as well, they do not read serious non-fiction books, do not study history or the humanities and get their political opinions from journalists rather than through their own multi-faceted study. It's a dangerous mixture of intellectual laziness, childishness and extreme individualism.

And I have noticed that many of the millenials are some of the most extreme. It's as if they simply do not want to grow up and a lot of them seem to hold some sort of grievance against Western society. I mean you still have adults who dress up as anime characters or who got to Harry Potter conventions. What sort of society is this? It is not sustainable. These values are not sustainable.



It will not heal. The destruction is already too much. But we must not give up hope. Hope is last to die.

Well most of the Russian middle age men seem like normal people to me. I like them. What is wrong with that generation in your opinion? I see no problems in them.

And Russia is much more serious than the West. Russian values are superior. Russians are rediscovering the Orthodox faith which is wonderful.


Very good post, PI. The Orthodox faith has saved my life, and the Russia of that faith is my spiritual homeland as well as the physical homeland of my new family. Russia will survive, and will thrive.
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Political Interest wrote:Albert, Westerners cannot accept it because they do not have the range of experience to know it is a dangerous idea.


@Albert is an immigrant living in Toronto, one of the most multicultural cities in the developed world. He literally is multiculturalism.

Like me, he has directly benefited from multicultural policies and has contributed to those benefits.

He is an example of how multiculturalism works even when it involves immigrants who advocate sexism, reactionary politics, and intolerance.

Already England is beginning to look like India, a communalist society. Of course it cannot be seen yet because multiculturalism in Europe has not yet experienced it's full potential. But as demography changes and these countries become more diverse there will be little homogeneity or unity of common opinion. The result will be internal turmoil and highly divided societies. It will be no one's fault, the mistake of the far right has been to identify some 'other' whether this be Muslims or others, but it is just human weakness and the inherently fragile character of plural/multicultural societies.


Albert and I both have had the pleasure of living in Toronto. It is a city where the majority of people are visible minorities. In other words, it is less than half white, and there is no ethnicity with a majority.

It is also one of the safest and most economically sound cities in the world.

If Europe can do what Toronto has done, you will be fine.
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Political Interest wrote:Albert, Westerners cannot accept it because they do not have the range of experience to know it is a dangerous idea.
:lol: I expect better from you, PI. It works great in Canada, and has for decades, which invalidates your "dangerous idea" statement. USA is effectively multicultural, despite being the so-called "Melting Pot".

A lot of cities are multicultural, and still great places, including Bangkok, Vancouver, Toronto, and even Edmonton.

Pants of Dog wrote:@Albert is an immigrant living in Toronto, one of the most multicultural cities in the developed world. He literally is multiculturalism.

Like me, he has directly benefited from multicultural policies and has contributed to those benefits.

He is an example of how multiculturalism works even when it involves immigrants who advocate sexism, reactionary politics, and intolerance.
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Political Interest wrote:The outlook for Europe is not optimistic. I don't think they will have a sudden realisation that this is a bad idea. It is more likely that conditions will reach such a shocking point that only then will they come to their senses. But by then it will already be too late. Young Europeans, along with their baby boomer parents actively support MC along with all their other lunatic opinions. We are not dealing with serious peoples, Albert. They became people who only live for pleasure and career. Badly educated as well, they do not read serious non-fiction books, do not study history or the humanities and get their political opinions from journalists rather than through their own multi-faceted study. It's a dangerous mixture of intellectual laziness, childishness and extreme individualism.

And I have noticed that many of the millenials are some of the most extreme. It's as if they simply do not want to grow up and a lot of them seem to hold some sort of grievance against Western society. I mean you still have adults who dress up as anime characters or who got to Harry Potter conventions. What sort of society is this? It is not sustainable. These values are not sustainable.
MC is enforced in the west as far as I can see. It is also has become a sort of hysteria, mass insanity if I may. "Cultural Revolution" in China, or communism for that matter were all similar top-down endevours to shape society to an idealistic outlook. There is an oppression happening in the west, there a dictate of how one should think, say and behiave. In irony this runs contrary to liberal principles of freedom of expression and thought.

Indeed this is not sustainable, so things are bond to change sooner or later. People who see this need to prepare.

It will not heal. The destruction is already too much. But we must not give up hope. Hope is last to die.

Well most of the Russian middle age men seem like normal people to me. I like them. What is wrong with that generation in your opinion? I see no problems in them.

And Russia is much more serious than the West. Russian values are superior. Russians are rediscovering the Orthodox faith which is wonderful.
Russian society went through a lot in 20th century. It lost a lot morally during communism. Also all the wars left its traumatic effects. Reemergence of Christianity is definitely helping with that though.

annatar1914 wrote:
Very good post, PI. The Orthodox faith has saved my life, and the Russia of that faith is my spiritual homeland as well as the physical homeland of my new family. Russia will survive, and will thrive.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you not also a supporter of communism; if so how do you reconcile Christianity with Communism?
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Albert wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you not also a supporter of communism; if so how do you reconcile Christianity with Communism?


Well, I'm not an Atheist, for one. And, I support Soviet type ''Communism'' (Socialism) as a political and socio-economic system from the bottom up, not as a cultic end all and be all but as an modern answer to Capitalism. And, i'm a bit of a Tsarist too, like the ''Mladorossi'' of the 1920's and 1930's;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladorossi

with this guy as their primary thinker, a devout Orthodox Christian and Soviet Socialist;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander ... h_Kazembek

Some may not take my views seriously, or find them practical in this day and age, but I don't expect this modern era will be lasting for much longer, it's quite unsustainable.
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Godstud wrote:Xenophobia: When you're afraid of anyone different than yourself, and whine and bitch constantly about how much of a victim you are.


I'm not xenophopic, I've been around, I love other cultures. I think multiculturalism, while problematic, is most likely going to work out for the best. The West is gonna corrupt the shit out of those immigrants and the corruption is gonna filter back to the homeland. It still doesn't change the fact that their cultures are fucking stupid.
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Godstud wrote:You are correct. Western culture is indeed stupid... if it can indeed be considered a culture and not simply capitalism run rampant.



No, you're right, it's pretty retarded, unfortunately it's not even close to the most retarded. Western cultural is functionally retarded, the cultures it's importing are fully retarded.
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Sivad wrote:It's funny that Godstud can't acknowledge that some cultures are indeed extra retarded.
What a great example of ethnocentrism you are providing. I am sure, if asked, many other cultures would say the same about yours.
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Here's the difference, if a race of super enlightened aliens arrived on earth tomorrow and were all totally rational and egalitarian and shit, I'd fully recognize their cultural superiority and try to emulate it. Retard cultures would be totally unfazed and just continue on in their belligerent ignorance. Retard cultures, like American talibangecals or fundie muslims, would try to kill or convert those super cool aliens.
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